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From:       Everaldo <everaldo () everaldo ! com>
Date:       2005-06-24 20:01:00
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Just a correction, fonts = sources

thanks


On 24.06.05 16:50, "Everaldo" <everaldo@everaldo.com> wrote:

> Hello KDE artists,
>  
> I have seen a lot of discussion about me, my work and KDE and decided to write
> some points that I would like to make known by everyone.
>  
> 1-Iım not a KDE enemy.
>  Iıve been working for three years, every day for KDE and wasnıt few the
> number of night without sleep that Iıve dedicated to this project. This was
> KDE before I start to work on it 
> http://hellspawn.dnsalias.net/~mircomir/images/hobx11/kde2_1.gif
> <http://hellspawn.dnsalias.net/~mircomir/images/hobx11/kde2_1.gif> and this is
> KDE nowadays http://kdelook.org/content/pre1/25668-1.jpg
> <http://kdelook.org/content/pre1/25668-1.jpg> . A lot of things have changed
> since I started. Iıve done thousands of graphics for KDE and I believe that I
> can surely say that no other artist, even Trackat that was the artist that
> most contributed to KDE and that is my inspirations for many of my works,
> contributed with as many graphics as I did. I did it not expecting for money,
> disclosure or anything else. I did it for my desk top, some people like it and
> then the thing was spread.
> 
> 2-  Iım in love with KDE. This is the reason for me to dedicate so much time
> to this project. It is also the reason Iıve never stopped to work for KDE and
> why I never will.  I get nothing but personal realization, so please donıt
> think KDE is doing me a favor.
> 
> 3-   IıM NOT RICH. IıM NOT RICH. I mention twice the last sentence so you can
> really understand that. I donıt count with someone to take care of my living
> while Iım drawing icons for KDE. I need to eat (believe me!  the body is a
> frail thing and if it donıt get feed it may die, it is also not invulnerable
> to the weather changes and it needs clothes, so I need money to provide me
> this kind of things) and if you canıt understand this, it is maybe because you
> donıt live in a country that still have enormous social differences among its
> people like Brazil. IıM NOT RICH and this is the reason why I have to work and
> canıt dedicate myself full time for KDE. IıM NOT RICH and this is the reason
> why I sometimes have no time to read all the emails that are sent to this
> email list. IıM NOT RICH and because that Iıve never take an English curse to
> make  my communication with you guys better. IıM NOT RICH and this is the
> reason Iıve never went to college. IıM NOT RICH and because of that Iıve never
> went to one of the KDE international conventions.
> 
> 4- Codes and fonts? There are such things for images? Where are the KDE fonts
> and wallpapers files? Where are the fonts codes of KDE splashes? The codes of
> Office splashes? I donıt think it was a problem when they was included in the
> official packages. Sincerely, if you canıt edit a 128x128 .png I think maybe
> you should rethink about your designer abilities. But even Iıve considered
> this a completely non sense request Iıll send it as soon I can get my files
> organized. However you have to understand that not all the icons were
> developed in as vector file the greater part was made in pixels 128 x128 and
> then sizes up in to the small sizes so you may not get much vector files of
> the icons.
> 
> 5- SGV. I use Adobe Illustrator to develop the vectors files. You may donıt
> like this, if is so, I would ask you to create an opensource program that
> include the same A.I. facilities e tools and I will happily use it. The SVGs
> created by A.I CS are not supported by the KDE, I know that some technical
> problems exist but remember, Iım not technician Iım a designer/illustrator.
> The fact is that the icons developed in A.I. are not well supported by KDE and
> this is the reason why I have decided for developing the icons in .png.
> Another import fact is that the vector icons when sized up automatically do
> not maintain a nice visual in the small sizes. Maybe a good solution for that
> should be create a kind of SVG file for the KDE icons that include a
> simplified icons that would be used in smaller sizes and another , with more
> details, that would be used for bigger files. Anyways on the next days Iıll be
> launching a new icon theme called ³Vectorial² that will be entirely made in
> SGV and will use outlines for a better visualization of the smaller sizes,
> however this is not a visual that I like. I really think that the vector icons
> are the future, a proof of that is that Microsoft will use this technology on
> Longhorn http://i.cmpnet.com/desktoppipeline/story_art/lh5048_07.jpg
> <http://i.cmpnet.com/desktoppipeline/story_art/lh5048_07.jpg>   unfortunately,
> I have not found anything good for Linux yet.
>  
> To conclude, I would like to say that have always been a great honor to
> contribute with KDE. A lot of people are happy with Crystal and a proof of
> that is the large number of downloads and the material that are launched all
> the time by people that are not from KDE taken Crystal as an inspiration. I
> really think that if you are not grateful for what you have you donıt deserve
> what you do have. If you donıt like the Crystal you are not forced to use it
> and please, if you donıt have something relevant to say please, donıt waist
> our time. To all you that have done a great work for KDE and for the community
> wait for the next few days the vector files.
>  
> Thank you from all my heart,
> Everaldo
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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<FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>Just a \
correction, fonts = sources &nbsp;<BR> <BR>
thanks<BR>
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On 24.06.05 16:50, &quot;Everaldo&quot; &lt;everaldo@everaldo.com&gt; wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>Hello KDE artists,<BR> &nbsp;<BR>
I have seen a lot of discussion about me, my work and KDE and decided to write some \
points that I would like to make known by everyone. <BR> &nbsp;<BR>
<B>1-I&#8217;m not a KDE enemy.<BR>
</B> I&#8217;ve been working for three years, every day for KDE and wasn&#8217;t few \
the number of night without sleep that I&#8217;ve dedicated to this project. This was \
KDE before I start to work on it  <FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><U><a \
href="http://hellspawn.dnsalias.net/~mircomir/images/hobx11/kde2_1.gif">http://hellspawn.dnsalias.net/~mircomir/images/hobx11/kde2_1.gif</a></U></FONT> \
&lt;<FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><U><a \
href="http://hellspawn.dnsalias.net/~mircomir/images/hobx11/kde2_1.gif">http://hellspawn.dnsalias.net/~mircomir/images/hobx11/kde2_1.gif</a></U></FONT>&gt; \
and this is KDE nowadays <FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><U><a \
href="http://kdelook.org/content/pre1/25668-1.jpg">http://kdelook.org/content/pre1/25668-1.jpg</a></U></FONT> \
&lt;<FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><U><a \
href="http://kdelook.org/content/pre1/25668-1.jpg">http://kdelook.org/content/pre1/25668-1.jpg</a></U></FONT>&gt; \
. A lot of things have changed since I started. I&#8217;ve done thousands of graphics \
for KDE and I believe that I can surely say that no other artist, even Trackat that \
was the artist that most contributed to KDE and that is my inspirations for many of \
my works, contributed with as many graphics as I did. I did it not expecting for \
money, disclosure or anything else. I did it for my desk top, some people like it and \
then the thing was spread. <BR> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, \
Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'><BR> </SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT \
FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'><B>2-</B></SPAN></FONT></FONT><B><FONT \
SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10.0px'> \
&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>I&#8217;m in love with KDE</SPAN></FONT></FONT></B><FONT \
SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>. This is the reason for \
me to dedicate so much time to this project. It is also the reason I&#8217;ve never \
stopped to work for KDE and why I never will.  I get nothing but personal \
realization, so please don&#8217;t think KDE is doing me a favor. <BR> \
</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:12.0px'><BR> </SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:13.0px'><B>3-</B></SPAN></FONT></FONT><B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT \
FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10.0px'> \
&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>I&#8217;M NOT RICH.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></B><FONT \
SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> I&#8217;M NOT RICH. I \
mention twice the last sentence so you can really understand that. I don&#8217;t \
count with someone to take care of my living while I&#8217;m drawing icons for KDE. I \
need to eat (believe me!  the body is a frail thing and if it don&#8217;t get feed it \
may die, it is also not invulnerable to the weather changes and it needs clothes, so \
I need money to provide me this kind of things) and if you can&#8217;t understand \
this, it is maybe because you don&#8217;t live in a country that still have enormous \
social differences among its people like Brazil. I&#8217;M NOT RICH and this is the \
reason why I have to work and can&#8217;t dedicate myself full time for KDE. \
I&#8217;M NOT RICH and this is the reason why I sometimes have no time to read all \
the emails that are sent to this email list. I&#8217;M NOT RICH and because that \
I&#8217;ve never take an English curse to make  my communication with you guys \
better. I&#8217;M NOT RICH and this is the reason I&#8217;ve never went to college. \
I&#8217;M NOT RICH and because of that I&#8217;ve never went to one of the KDE \
international conventions.<BR> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, \
Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'><BR> </SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT \
FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'><B>4-</B></SPAN></FONT></FONT><B><FONT \
SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10.0px'> \
</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>Codes and fonts? </SPAN></FONT></FONT></B><FONT \
SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>There are such things for \
images? Where are the KDE fonts and wallpapers files? Where are the fonts codes of \
KDE splashes? The codes of Office splashes? I don&#8217;t think it was a problem when \
they was included in the official packages. Sincerely, if you can&#8217;t edit a \
128x128 .png I think maybe you should rethink about your designer abilities. But even \
I&#8217;ve considered this a completely non sense request I&#8217;ll send it as soon \
I can get my files organized. However you have to understand that not all the icons \
were developed in as vector file the greater part was made in pixels 128 x128 and \
then sizes up in to the small sizes so you may not get much vector files of the \
icons.<BR> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:12.0px'><BR> </SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:13.0px'><B>5-</B></SPAN></FONT></FONT><B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT \
FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10.0px'> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT \
SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN \
STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>SGV.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></B><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT \
FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'> I use Adobe Illustrator to develop the \
vectors files. You may don&#8217;t like this, if is so, I would ask you to create an \
opensource program that include the same A.I. facilities e tools and I will happily \
use it. The SVGs created by A.I CS are not supported by the KDE, I know that some \
technical problems exist but remember, I&#8217;m not technician I&#8217;m a \
designer/illustrator. The fact is that the icons developed in A.I. are not well \
supported by KDE and this is the reason why I have decided for developing the icons \
in .png. Another import fact is that the vector icons when sized up automatically do \
not maintain a nice visual in the small sizes. Maybe a good solution for that should \
be create a kind of SVG file for the KDE icons that include a simplified icons that \
would be used in smaller sizes and another , with more details, that would be used \
for bigger files. Anyways on the next days I&#8217;ll be launching a new icon theme \
called &#8220;Vectorial&#8221; that will be entirely made in SGV and will use \
outlines for a better visualization of the smaller sizes, however this is not a \
visual that I like. I really think that the vector icons are the future, a proof of \
that is that Microsoft will use this technology on Longhorn <FONT \
COLOR="#0000FF"><U><a \
href="http://i.cmpnet.com/desktoppipeline/story_art/lh5048_07.jpg">http://i.cmpnet.com/desktoppipeline/story_art/lh5048_07.jpg</a></U></FONT> \
&lt;<FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><U><a \
href="http://i.cmpnet.com/desktoppipeline/story_art/lh5048_07.jpg">http://i.cmpnet.com/desktoppipeline/story_art/lh5048_07.jpg</a></U></FONT>&gt; \
unfortunately, I have not found anything good for Linux yet.<BR> &nbsp;<BR>
To conclude, I would like to say that have always been a great honor to contribute \
with KDE. A lot of people are happy with Crystal and a proof of that is the large \
number of downloads and the material that are launched all the time by people that \
are not from KDE taken Crystal as an inspiration. I really think that if you are not \
grateful for what you have you don&#8217;t deserve what you do have. If you \
don&#8217;t like the Crystal you are not forced to use it and please, if you \
don&#8217;t have something relevant to say please, don&#8217;t waist our time. To all \
you that have done a great work for KDE and for the community wait for the next few \
days the vector files. <BR> &nbsp;<BR>
Thank you from all my heart,<BR>
Everaldo<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
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