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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] Crystal Clear release!
From:       Rainer Endres <endres () physos ! org>
Date:       2005-06-23 12:22:35
Message-ID: 200506231422.35955.endres () physos ! org
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Hi

On Thursday 23 June 2005 10:37, Luciano Montanaro wrote:
> El Miércoles 22 Junio 2005 23:01, Jonathan Riddell escribió:
> Are we again arguing about this?
>
> The author can decide what constitutes a source file.
> Saying an icon is LGPL IMHO means, roughly:
> - You cannot embed the icons directly in your program, unless it is LGPL
>   too,
> - You cannot change them and distribute them, unless you licence them the
>   same way,
> - You have to state somewhere the status of the used icons.

From http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html:

""Source code" for a work means the preferred form of the work for making 
modifications to it."

I doubt anybody is seeing editing the PNG as the prefered way with SVG based 
icons. 

I respect Everaldo trying to protect his work, but then an appropriate closed 
licence needs to be coosen, which would be sad and I hope is not the 
intention. When you declare something GPL or LGPL, the source has to be 
provided, something most KDE icon artists did not do with the SVG based icons 
to different degree. 

> So, there is no need for Everaldo to release anything he does not care to
> share, and there is no problem at all with the licensing.

When he choose LGPL he had to stick to the license. And compiled PNGs is not 
"...the preferred form of the work for making modifications to..." vector 
based graphics as you elaborate below.

> From the KDE project point of view, things are a bit different, in that
> templates and vector files are quite valuable if others have to help with
> new icons - or mantain the icon set if the original author finds new
> interests.

See, thats exactly why the LGPL requires to release the "source code".

> But this is not a licensing issue at all.

Yes it is. A lot. This is exactly what OSS is about. OpenSource not "Free as 
in Beer download".

> I don't know if Everaldo wants the icons to be included as a theme in the
> KDE distribution, or if he wants simply to share his work as is. Only in
> the former case, the KDE project may put out conditions for the inclusion
> of the icon set in the distribution.

The condition is to honour licenses of work this icon theme is derivated from 
and the Licence it is declared to be released under.

> Please let's not confuse different issues.

These are no different issues. 

	Rainer


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