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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] Recent crystalsvg  and some older changes
From:       Kenneth Wimer <wimer () suse ! de>
Date:       2005-03-31 12:39:32
Message-ID: 20050331123932.GB29775 () suse ! de
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* qwertz <kraftw@gmx.de> [Mar 31. 2005 14:27]:
> 
> 
> >
> > Although I cannot give you explanation of why they were made I can tell
> > you that we are working on changing this. The home and
> > recycle icons are much better in your version becuase they stand out
> > more. Unfortunately your version wouldn't work when the icons are shown
> > at the standard size. Everaldos icons were never made for small sizes.
> 
> I have too disagree. They work in all sizes.
> http://ktown.kde.org/~qwertz/Image13852.PNG
> I really cant see why they were changed.

I meant 16x16.

> 
> >
> > >  I support changes as long as they are true improvements.
> > > But I fail to see how the current versions are an improvement over the
> > > original everaldo theme.(http://www.linuxcult.com/forum/crystal.php)
> > > Therefore I'd rather stay with those until a better solution is found.
> >
> > Actually I would like to start working on a new theme to replace
> > crystal. If we reverted to Everaldos old set we would once again be
> > missing lots of icons, not to mention pretty much all the small ones are
> > useless.
> >
> 
> I am not talking about removing new icons.I am talking about reinventing the
> wheel.
> Replacing very good icons with not so good ones:)

The old ones simply had way too many colors and stand out as artwork on
a button, not a visual indicator of what you want to do. ie. they are
not usable, only pretty to some people.

> 
> >
> > We are working on including many of the actions in 2D form but that
> > does not mean that they have to all be grey. Reducing the complexity of
> > these icons is not only a visual matter but also one of usability.
> >
> 
> The new icons do not look anything like crystalsvg.
> How about creating a new theme with a new name?
> Please dont overwrite Crystal.People expect a specific look behind that name
> and they should get it.

When we have a new theme we will do so. Until then we will simply make
improvements on the crystal theme. If the 2d icons are too grey for your
taste, by all means add some color to them and see if everyone likes
them. Simply putting in greyscale icons is not our intention. We are
trying to improve the usability of the icons, that is all.

Bye,
Ken

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