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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: K-ARTIST: KDE default icon theme
From:       Frans Englich <frans.englich () telia ! com>
Date:       2004-10-28 19:32:27
Message-ID: 200410281932.27564.frans.englich () telia ! com
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On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:25, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> * Frans Englich <frans.englich@telia.com> [Oct 28. 2004 20:48]:
> > On Thursday 28 October 2004 18:46, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > > * Wade Olson <wadejolson@yahoo.com> [Oct 28. 2004 20:34]:
> > > > Recommendation:
> > > > As 50 people could easily be found to support one stance or the
> > > > other, any major icons shift should be based from guidelines such as:
> > > >
> > > > * licensing
> > > > * consistency
> > > > * completeness
> > > > * maintainability
> > > > * future plans
> > > > * random sampling user polls if necessary
> > > >
> > > > Full icon sets are massive efforts and artists take a lot of pride in
> > > > being the default for a desktop environment (and are fortunately a
> > > > little bit less catty that models clamoring to be on a magizine
> > > > cover, although none less prestigious!)
> > > >
> > > > So if this topic is pursued, let's attempt to avoid an internal
> > > > popularity contest.
> > >
> > > Very well put. I agree 100%. Perhaps we should write up a checklist of
> > > items that need to be satisfied before we will even consider including
> > > a theme in KDE? The second part of that would be the extra things that
> > > are necessary to become "default".
> > >
> > > All of this stuff should be going on the artists web page. I think that
> > > we should make this a priority.
> >
> > Isn't it best suited for the AIG/CIG?
>
> Yes, actually it would be. Since I am the one making this, perhaps
> someone would like to offer some help defining this?
>
> Making the CIG has proven a very complicated issue. It is kinda like
> writing a constitution for a new government...Four score and seven years
> ago our artists brought forth on this desktop a new icon theme,
> concieved in consistency, completeness and maintainability...(an adopted
> version of the Gettysburg Address)
>
> It is very hard to write a set of guidelines for something that you do
> not have control over :-) Any help would be appreciated. Perhaps I
> should start posting updates? Anyone interested in helping?

I personally can't right now, I'm busy with other guidelines related stuff(and 
other KDE hacking).

> Serious 
> help, I mean, not "anyone interested in just bitching about details?

Yes, going from the "we need to do something" to actual doing something would 
be great :) Getting concrete work/patches floating would probably be a good 
idea. There's many ambitious people on the list, so why not. I think the 
Guidelines is the path out from the confusion, and the right place to put 
stuff like this, so it surely is important.


Cheers,

		Frans

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