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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: K-ARTIST: KDE Default icons
From:       James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj () acm ! org>
Date:       2004-10-21 9:37:23
Message-ID: 41778353.20003 () acm ! org
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Kenneth Wimer wrote:

>> James Tyrer wrote:

>>> I don't like CrystalSVG because I find them hard to see (low contrast and
>>>  monochromatic [blue]), so I probably am not the best one to say 
>>> regarding it.

> That JRT does not like Crystal is pretty clear by now...the only thing to 
> make it clearer would be to perhaps have it tattoed on his forehead. JRT 
> should perhaps spend more time working on the hi-color stuff and the 
> two-color stuff, or whatever other stuff he wants to work on and stop 
> complaining that he deosn't like crystal. To be honest I am sick of hearing 
> it and the rest of the world is not going to change their opinions because of
>  one person.
> 
I don't like top posting either.  But, what is worse is people that take what 
you say out of context to criticize you. and there is little point in doing it.
>> 
>> If we made a KDE default icon theme perhaps we could address some of these 
>> issues with the icon standards.
> 
> At this time the crystal theme is default in KDE, but for technical and 
> asthetic reasons we don't change the name in the files :-)
> 
It *would* be rather messy to call it default, and wouldn't fit with the 
FreeDesktop standards or the idea of themed icons.

The problem, and the point that was missed, is that it is ONLY the default 
*named* icon theme.  The problem is that people have started treating it like it 
WAS named "default" and adding icons to it that are NOT Crystal style.  This 
despite specific instructions:

	http://developer.kde.org/~larrosa/iconthemes.html

Perhaps I *am* the one to comment on this because I don't use the default 
(CrystalSVG) icon style so mistakes such as these are more obvious to me.

We need to continue to support themed icons rather than acting as though 
CrystalSVG is not only the *default* icon theme but also the ONLY icon theme.

AGAIN, icons that *are* HiColor should not be installed as CrystalSVG.  They 
should be installed as HiColor.  And if possible, ALL icons should be installed 
as themed.  This was after all, the idea of having themed icons -- wasn't it?

--
JRT
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