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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: K-ARTIST: Quantized CrystalSVG Icons??
From:       Frans Englich <frans.englich () telia ! com>
Date:       2004-04-01 1:31:39
Message-ID: 200404010331.39723.frans.englich () telia ! com
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On Wednesday 31 March 2004 18:45, chris / os11.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Just a couple of questions and thoughts I had after finishing reading
> this message.
>
>
> 1] Has KDE got a proper SVG icon rendering engine built into the OS?
>
> 2] If not then you might as well stop reading.
>
> 3] If it does and its just 'disabled' by default then It should be on,
> permanently.
>
> 4] If KDE had its SVG rendering capabilities on all the time then
> people would know where they stand as far as how far down the line SVG
> icons are. How they look in general. Is the icon set nearing
> completion? Is there a speed hit to the OS? How do they draw to the
> screen? Are they good enough detail? Are they readable!? etc...
>
> 5] If KDE doesn't have SVG icon drawing turned on soon I think there
> will be too much compromise towards PNG icons and creating two sets of
> everything. I have created many SVG icons but only the PNG versions
> will ever be seen?
>
> 6] If KDE has a SVG icon renderer built into it will anti-aliased icons
> look OK in an OS which is mainly a non anti-aliased environment. An
> example would be look at KDE then look at MAC OS X and notice the
> different ways things are drawn to the screen. The mac will always be
> slightly more 'fuzzy' than KDE because of the way the screen is drawn.
> and anti-aliased.
>
> Hopefully this has raised a few points that I have been thinking about
> for quite a while now.

Not much, but little:
https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/ksvg-devel/2004-January/000082.html

A big AFAIK on this:
KDE got ksvg which renders SVG files(it's in kdegraphics). KDE can handle 
real svg icon themes but it's not fast, but buggy. (sorry if I squished 
someone there..)
SVG icons is of course the way to go and that's one of the reasons to why some 
of us frantically pushes for SVG files being submitted. For every SVG getting 
committed we get one step closer at having a testbed for ksvg and more demand 
on a functioning svg icon loader. Currently it is a little bit of a 
chicken&egg problem - no svgs, and no renderer(in broad terms). When one of 
them arrives, the other will follow and I think it's easier if the svgs comes 
first.

Anyway, what's going on in this area is quite vague and the question will 
appear again and again, we need to clarify and document.
Perhaps a informative wiki page which:

* Clarifies the technical parts and their status - What does work and what 
does not?(slow, buggy, specific problems) How does one help fixing?
* How to enable svg rendering, I think it's basically about hacking the 
index.theme 
file.

When we got that more people can help/test - file bug reports, ventilate the 
problem.

I think talking to Rob Buis <buis@kde.org> will please the most questions.

I got it on my TODO, but I guess I will get to that in about 3-5 years..

Cheers,
		Frans

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