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Subject: Re: Plasma Active - Ultrabook touchscreen
From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date: 2014-10-09 23:52:39
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM, hier <hier@wolfgangromey.de> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2014, 18:23:44 schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer:
> > On Thursday 09 October 2014 15:51:19 Caio Ferreira wrote:
> > > Hello gents,
> > >
> > > I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad Flex 14 Touch-80C4000EBR, which came
> with
> > > windows 8.1. I'm a linux user since 2002, currently using openSUSE 13.2
> > > (beta) but I was relly exited to see Plasma Active running in this
> > > touchscreen ultrabook.
> > >
> > > I've seen a lot of things about plasma active running in some tablets,
> but
> > > nothing about touchscreen notebook. I'm just sending this message
> because
> > > I
> > > can see a big "market" on touchscreen notebooks as no other linux DE
> works
> > > properly with touchscreen.
> > >
> > > Why not to create a distro with plasma active? (suse studio is a great
> > > tool
> > > for this purpose) (yes, there is a old one:
> > > https://susestudio.com/a/abQj83/plasma-active#discussion)
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Caio Ferreira
> >
> > Hi Caio,
> > (btw, why are you so sure there are no ladies in the Plasma Active team?
> ;)
> > ) You are right, convertible laptop/tablets such as the Ideapad Flex are
> > indeed a prime target for Plasma - though not for Plasma Active alone,
> but
> > for the combination of Plasma Desktop in the laptop mode and Plasma
> Active
> > in the tablet mode.
> > Plasma Active was explicitly designed for pure touchscreen use, so it's
> what
> > should be used in tablet mode when the keyboard and touchpad are hidden.
> >
> > Being able to seamlessly switch between the different shells when the
> device
> > mode is changed has always been the goal of Plasma. However, in the
> Plasma
> > 4 times, this didn't work smoothly yet.
> > This will change with Plasma 5, though. The thing is that the port of
> Plasma
> > Active to Plasma 5 is not finished yet. As soon as it's done, it should
> > work in any distribution that ships Plasma, so it makes most sense to
> pick
> > it up at that point.
> >
> > Another reason why we don't see widespread adoption of Plasma Active in
> > regular Linux distributions yet might be that it was developed based on
> the
> > mobile-focused Mer platform and packaging it in other distributions
> turned
> > out not to be trivial. This will change with the Plasma 5 version, too,
> > since at that point Plasma Active is just a regular shell package like
> > Plasma Desktop.
> >
> > So, tl;dr : If you want the optimal experience with Plasma on your
> > convertible, either wait for the port to Plasma 5 or help make it happen
> > faster by contributing code / money / whatever to its development ;)
> >
> > Best,
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Active mailing list
> > Active@kde.org
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active
> Very good news Thomas
>
> Cheers
>
> Wolfgang
>
This is indeed an important area to investigate. I was discussing with
David (another Plasma devel) this week that maybe we should get a laptop of
those for testing. It's kind of hard to push this kind of things without
the hardware... ;)
Either way, the infrastructure is there, now it just needs the love.
Cheers!
Aleix
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 \
at 6:27 PM, hier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hier@wolfgangromey.de" \
target="_blank">hier@wolfgangromey.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2014, 18:23:44 schrieb Thomas \
Pfeiffer:<br> <div><div class="h5">> On Thursday 09 October 2014 15:51:19 Caio \
Ferreira wrote:<br> > > Hello gents,<br>
> ><br>
> > I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad Flex 14 Touch-80C4000EBR, which came \
with<br> > > windows 8.1. I'm a linux user since 2002, currently using \
openSUSE 13.2<br> > > (beta) but I was relly exited to see Plasma Active \
running in this<br> > > touchscreen ultrabook.<br>
> ><br>
> > I've seen a lot of things about plasma active running in some tablets, \
but<br> > > nothing about touchscreen notebook. I'm just sending this \
message because<br> > > I<br>
> > can see a big "market" on touchscreen notebooks as no other linux \
DE works<br> > > properly with touchscreen.<br>
> ><br>
> > Why not to create a distro with plasma active? (suse studio is a great<br>
> > tool<br>
> > for this purpose) (yes, there is a old one:<br>
> > <a href="https://susestudio.com/a/abQj83/plasma-active#discussion" \
target="_blank">https://susestudio.com/a/abQj83/plasma-active#discussion</a>)<br> \
> ><br> > > Best regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Caio Ferreira<br>
><br>
> Hi Caio,<br>
> (btw, why are you so sure there are no ladies in the Plasma Active team? ;)<br>
> ) You are right, convertible laptop/tablets such as the Ideapad Flex are<br>
> indeed a prime target for Plasma - though not for Plasma Active alone, but<br>
> for the combination of Plasma Desktop in the laptop mode and Plasma Active<br>
> in the tablet mode.<br>
> Plasma Active was explicitly designed for pure touchscreen use, so it's \
what<br> > should be used in tablet mode when the keyboard and touchpad are \
hidden.<br> ><br>
> Being able to seamlessly switch between the different shells when the device<br>
> mode is changed has always been the goal of Plasma. However, in the Plasma<br>
> 4 times, this didn't work smoothly yet.<br>
> This will change with Plasma 5, though. The thing is that the port of Plasma<br>
> Active to Plasma 5 is not finished yet. As soon as it's done, it should<br>
> work in any distribution that ships Plasma, so it makes most sense to pick<br>
> it up at that point.<br>
><br>
> Another reason why we don't see widespread adoption of Plasma Active in<br>
> regular Linux distributions yet might be that it was developed based on the<br>
> mobile-focused Mer platform and packaging it in other distributions turned<br>
> out not to be trivial. This will change with the Plasma 5 version, too,<br>
> since at that point Plasma Active is just a regular shell package like<br>
> Plasma Desktop.<br>
><br>
> So, tl;dr : If you want the optimal experience with Plasma on your<br>
> convertible, either wait for the port to Plasma 5 or help make it happen<br>
> faster by contributing code / money / whatever to its development ;)<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
> Thomas<br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Active mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Active@kde.org">Active@kde.org</a><br>
> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active</a><br> </div></div>Very \
good news Thomas<br> <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Wolfgang<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is indeed an important \
area to investigate. I was discussing with David (another Plasma devel) this week \
that maybe we should get a laptop of those for testing. It's kind of hard to push \
this kind of things without the hardware... ;)</div><div><br></div><div>Either way, \
the infrastructure is there, now it just needs the \
love.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div>Aleix</div></div></div></div>
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