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Subject: Re: Some of the things needed for 1.0
From: Shantanu Tushar Jha <jhahoneyk () gmail ! com>
Date: 2011-10-05 7:43:42
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Hi Carl,
With regard to the slides being of improper size and position, I have fixed
the problem. I'll be very happy if you can use the updated packages and tes=
t
it out :)
Cheers,
Shantanu Tushar (UTC +0530)
http://www.shantanutushar.com
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Shantanu Tushar Jha <jhahoneyk@gmail.com>wr=
ote:
> Hi Carl,
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Carl Symons <carlsymons@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Markus Slopianka <markus.s@kdemail.net>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011 15:19:47 Ivan =C4=8Cuki=C4=87 wrote:
>> >
>> >> If calligra ppl want to implement pdf and other format's support,
>> >> fine, if not we can't use it.
>> >
>> > At least PDF support is definitely planned.
>> >
>> >
>> >> If yes, we can use it, but not before it
>> >> becomes more stable, like okular currently is.
>> >
>> > You called for a touchscreen version of Okular which requires a
>> completely new GUI which
>> > is _currently_ not available.
>> > Embedding the Okular KPart in Calligra would combine Okular's stabilit=
y
>> with Calligra's
>> > touch GUI. That would be a relatively easy stop-gap solution until
>> native Calligra PDF
>> > support is ready.
>> >
>>
>> There is an immediate use case for showing presentations on the
>> tablet. In fact, that's one of the primary ways I expect to be using
>> it.
>>
>> I've just experimented with a presentation that I will be giving later
>> this week to a real live customer. Okular works; Calligra Active
>> doesn't.
>>
>
> I guess you tried it with a PDF, that won't work. (read below)
>
>
>>
>> Okular may not have what people here consider a touchscreen interface,
>> but it works fine for me. There are no reasonable obstacles to its
>> use. I would prefer not to have to be so precise in selecting menu
>> choices, but in several such operations, there was only one error.
>>
>> Trying to get Calligra Active to work with stop-gap solutions is a bad
>> idea.
>>
>> Secondary consideration...
>> I'm not working in the technology; I'm a reasonably well informed
>> user. I support Calligra's push to parity with other FOSS office
>> suites, and am willing to sacrifice somewhat to in that support.
>> However, with the ExoPC/openSUSE/PlasmaActive/Contour set-up, Calligra
>> Active, I'm mystified.
>>
>
> That is so because it is designed by someone (me :P) who frankly didn't
> have good experience with touch UIs. Still making improvements, but yes I
> agree the pace isn't good.
>
>
>>
>> I select Calligra Active and am presented with a screen showing a list
>> with purty icons...Document, Spreadsheet, Presentation, Open Document.
>> Pressing Open Document opens a file open dialog. Pressing any other
>> button does nothing.
>>
>> PDFs won't open in Calligra Active. ODPs open with the slides taking
>> about 50% of the available screen area in the upper left corner. There
>> is no apparent way to resize them. The slides can be moved to the
>> center of the screen, and retreat to upper left when released.
>>
>
> Thanks for bringing this to notice, I was so engaged in other stuff[1] th=
at
> I didn't pay attention to the slides appearing smaller. Somehow I think I=
've
> used a absolute zoom factor which worked on my laptop screen but not
> everywhere. I'm trying to fix this one.
> PDFs are not yet supported in CA, sorry.
>
> [1] Desktop search integration, so now the other three buttons work :)
>
>
>>
>> As it currently is, Calligra Active is not ready for the tablet.
>> Favoring it over Okular shows Plasma Active in a bad light.
>>
>> Carl
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
> Shantanu Tushar (UTC +0530)
> http://www.shantanutushar.com
>
>
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Hi Carl,<div><br></div><div>With regard to the slides being of improper size and \
position, I have fixed the problem. I'll be very happy if you can use the updated \
packages and test it out :)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br clear="all"> \
<div><br></div>Shantanu Tushar (UTC +0530)<br><a \
href="http://www.shantanutushar.com" \
target="_blank">http://www.shantanutushar.com</a><br> <br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Shantanu Tushar Jha <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jhahoneyk@gmail.com">jhahoneyk@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Hi Carl,<br clear="all"><div><br></div><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Carl Symons <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carlsymons@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">carlsymons@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div>On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Markus Slopianka <<a \
href="mailto:markus.s@kdemail.net" target="_blank">markus.s@kdemail.net</a>> \
wrote:<br> > On Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011 15:19:47 Ivan Čukić wrote:<br>
><br>
>> If calligra ppl want to implement pdf and other format's support,<br>
>> fine, if not we can't use it.<br>
><br>
> At least PDF support is definitely planned.<br>
><br>
><br>
>> If yes, we can use it, but not before it<br>
>> becomes more stable, like okular currently is.<br>
><br>
> You called for a touchscreen version of Okular which requires a completely new \
GUI which<br> > is _currently_ not available.<br>
> Embedding the Okular KPart in Calligra would combine Okular's stability with \
Calligra's<br> > touch GUI. That would be a relatively easy stop-gap solution \
until native Calligra PDF<br> > support is ready.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>There is an immediate use case for showing presentations on the<br>
tablet. In fact, that's one of the primary ways I expect to be using<br>
it.<br>
<br>
I've just experimented with a presentation that I will be giving later<br>
this week to a real live customer. Okular works; Calligra Active<br>
doesn't.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>I guess you tried it with a PDF, that \
won't work. (read below)<br> <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Okular may not have what people here consider a touchscreen interface,<br>
but it works fine for me. There are no reasonable obstacles to its<br>
use. I would prefer not to have to be so precise in selecting menu<br>
choices, but in several such operations, there was only one error.<br>
<br>
Trying to get Calligra Active to work with stop-gap solutions is a bad idea.<br>
<br>
Secondary consideration...<br>
I'm not working in the technology; I'm a reasonably well informed<br>
user. I support Calligra's push to parity with other FOSS office<br>
suites, and am willing to sacrifice somewhat to in that support.<br>
However, with the ExoPC/openSUSE/PlasmaActive/Contour set-up, Calligra<br>
Active, I'm mystified.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>That is so because it is \
designed by someone (me :P) who frankly didn't have good experience with touch \
UIs. Still making improvements, but yes I agree the pace isn't good.<br>
<br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
I select Calligra Active and am presented with a screen showing a list<br>
with purty icons...Document, Spreadsheet, Presentation, Open Document.<br>
Pressing Open Document opens a file open dialog. Pressing any other<br>
button does nothing.<br>
<br>
PDFs won't open in Calligra Active. ODPs open with the slides taking<br>
about 50% of the available screen area in the upper left corner. There<br>
is no apparent way to resize them. The slides can be moved to the<br>
center of the screen, and retreat to upper left when \
released.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Thanks for bringing this to notice, I was so \
engaged in other stuff[1] that I didn't pay attention to the slides appearing \
smaller. Somehow I think I've used a absolute zoom factor which worked on my \
laptop screen but not everywhere. I'm trying to fix this one.<br>
PDFs are not yet supported in CA, sorry.<br><br>[1] Desktop search integration, so \
now the other three buttons work :)<br> <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
As it currently is, Calligra Active is not ready for the tablet.<br>
Favoring it over Okular shows Plasma Active in a bad light.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Carl<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div></div><br><div><div></div><div class="h5">Shantanu \
Tushar (UTC +0530)<br><a href="http://www.shantanutushar.com/" \
target="_blank">http://www.shantanutushar.com</a><br> <br>
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