From kde-accessibility Thu Oct 12 17:33:32 2017 From: Jeremy Whiting Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:33:32 +0000 To: kde-accessibility Subject: Re: kde and speech Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-accessibility&m=150782962504241 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--94eb2c07a0c480fdc3055b5cf099" --94eb2c07a0c480fdc3055b5cf099 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Gustav, On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:23 AM, Gustav Degreef wrote: > On 10/11/2017 11:58 PM, Jeremy Whiting wrote: > > Jovie is not a screen reader. It is only useful to speak notifications > > from clock, etc. > snip > > Orca is the recommended screen reader on plasma systems. > Perhaps Jovie is not technically a screen reader, but it is well > integrated into Okular and some other KDE applications. In PDF files, > with Okular I select the text and right click. A context menu opens > that has an option to read out the text. In other applications, like > the browser, word processor or e-mail client, I just select the text, > then right click the Jovie icon in the system tray, and select the > option to read out the selected text, stop reading, etc. I am seriously > visually impaired for more than 3 years, Jovie in a sense has saved my > life. I tried four years back to integrate Orca into my KDE desktop and > I found it too difficult and cumbersome. > > It would be very helpful to know where instructions are that describe > how to integrate Orca into KDE and use it as easily as Jovie can be > used. A number of people who hear the output of Jovie comment that the > voices are terrible. It would be great if Orca is a good replacement > with better sounding voices. Gustav. > I'm glad Jovie has been helpful for you. I need an excuse to get back into KDE development again, this might be just the thing to get me there. Can I ask you a few questions to make sure the stuff I add/suggest is usable for you quickly? 1. What distribution of linux are you using with Jovie? 2. Which version of that distribution are you running? I am very confident I can create functionality in plasma or try with orca to get the functionality that you are used to. Orca and Jovie both use Speech-Dispatcher to do the speech synthesis which uses espeak by default but can be easily changed to use mbrola which sounds slightly better or pico (the same voices from Android) if pico is available on your distribution. Once I know the distribution you are using I can guide you through setting up Jovie/Speech-dispatcher to use these better quality voices then see what we need to do to get orca working well also and/or the Jovie "speak text from clipboard" functionality in plasma itself using QtSpeech. thanks, Jeremy --94eb2c07a0c480fdc3055b5cf099 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Gustav,

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:23 AM, Gustav Degreef <gustav97@gmail= .com> wrote:
On 10/11/2017 11:58 PM, Jeremy Whiting wrote:
> Jovie is not a screen reader. It is only useful to speak notifications=
> from clock, etc.
snip
> =C2=A0Orca is the recommended screen reader on plasma= systems.
Perhaps Jovie is not technically a screen reader, but it is well
integrated into Okular and some other KDE applications.=C2=A0=C2=A0 In PDF = files,
with Okular I select the text and right click.=C2=A0 A context menu opens that has an option to read out the text.=C2=A0 In other applications, like<= br> the browser, word processor or e-mail client, I just select the text,
then right click the Jovie icon in the system tray, and select the
option to read out the selected text, stop reading, etc.=C2=A0 I am serious= ly
visually impaired for more than 3 years, Jovie in a sense has saved my
life.=C2=A0 I tried four years back to integrate Orca into my KDE desktop a= nd
I found it too difficult and cumbersome.

It would be very helpful to know where instructions are that describe
how to integrate Orca into KDE and use it as easily as Jovie can be
used.=C2=A0 A number of people who hear the output of Jovie comment that th= e
voices are terrible.=C2=A0 It would be great if Orca is a good replacement<= br> with better sounding voices.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Gustav.

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I'm glad Jovie has been helpful for you. I need an excuse to = get back into KDE development again, this might be just the thing to get me= there. Can I ask you a few questions to make sure the stuff I add/suggest = is usable for you quickly?

1. What distribution of= linux are you using with Jovie?
2. Which version of that distrib= ution are you running?

I am very confident I can c= reate functionality in plasma or try with orca to get the functionality tha= t you are used to. Orca and Jovie both use Speech-Dispatcher to do the spee= ch synthesis which uses espeak by default but can be easily changed to use = mbrola which sounds slightly better or pico (the same voices from Android) = if pico is available on your distribution. Once I know the distribution you= are using I can guide you through setting up Jovie/Speech-dispatcher to us= e these better quality voices then see what we need to do to get orca worki= ng well also and/or the Jovie "speak text from clipboard" functio= nality in plasma itself using QtSpeech.

thanks,
Jeremy

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