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Subject:    [Kde-accessibility] Fw: D-Bus-based accessibility API [FWD]
From:       Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer () us ! ibm ! com>
Date:       2007-08-29 18:43:18
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Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review  Board
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/schwer
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---------- Forwarded Message -----------
From: Olaf Schmidt <ojschmidt@kde.org>
To: accessibility@a11y.org
Cc: kde-accessibility@kde.org
Sent: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:15:17 +0200
Subject: [Accessibility] D-Bus-based accessibility API

Hi!

For those who are not subscribed to the Gnome accessibility list
or heard otherwise:

Trolltech have released the promised D-Bus-based accessibility
API. They have made it available at:
http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/QDBusBridge

They also wrote a poke tool:
http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/IAPoke

Last but not least, they have a ported Dasher to use the API:
http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/QDasher

(They say that they plan to contribute their work back to the
official Dasher repository once things it has matured a bit.)

The API is close to both IAccessible2 and AT-SPI.

If I understnad the approach that Trolltech has taken correctly,
then they have:

a) implemented everything that is in IAccessible2 (including the
   improvements that are missing in AT-SPI)

b) implemented everything from AT-SPI that has been left out of
   IAccessible2 because it is available in MSAA

c) _not_ implemented parts of AT-SPI that are unused by the
   existing assistive technologies and that have therefore also
   been left out in IAccessible2

Olaf
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<p>If additional APIs were needed - why were they not brought back to the IA2 \
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Rich Schwerdtfeger<br>
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist<br>
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review  Board<br>
blog: <a href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/schwer">http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/schwer</a><br>
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---------- Forwarded Message -----------<br>
From: Olaf Schmidt &lt;ojschmidt@kde.org&gt;<br>
To: accessibility@a11y.org<br>
Cc: kde-accessibility@kde.org<br>
Sent: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:15:17 +0200<br>
Subject: [Accessibility] D-Bus-based accessibility API<br>
<br>
Hi!<br>
<br>
For those who are not subscribed to the Gnome accessibility list <br>
or heard otherwise:<br>
<br>
Trolltech have released the promised D-Bus-based accessibility <br>
API. They have made it available at: <br>
</tt><tt><a href="http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/QDBusBridge">h \
ttp://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/QDBusBridge</a></tt><tt><br> \
<br> They also wrote a poke tool:<br>
</tt><tt><a href="http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/IAPoke">http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/IAPoke</a></tt><tt><br>
 <br>
Last but not least, they have a ported Dasher to use the API:<br>
</tt><tt><a href="http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/QDasher">http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Accessibility/QDasher</a></tt><tt><br>
 <br>
(They say that they plan to contribute their work back to the <br>
official Dasher repository once things it has matured a bit.)<br>
<br>
The API is close to both IAccessible2 and AT-SPI.<br>
<br>
If I understnad the approach that Trolltech has taken correctly, <br>
then they have:<br>
<br>
a) implemented everything that is in IAccessible2 (including the<br>
 &nbsp; improvements that are missing in AT-SPI)<br>
<br>
b) implemented everything from AT-SPI that has been left out of<br>
 &nbsp; IAccessible2 because it is available in MSAA<br>
<br>
c) _not_ implemented parts of AT-SPI that are unused by the <br>
 &nbsp; existing assistive technologies and that have therefore also <br>
 &nbsp; been left out in IAccessible2<br>
<br>
Olaf<br>
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