Bill, thank you for the clarifications. I think it is important, for political and promotional reasons, that we insist on the fact that ATK is not part of Gnome but just a generic framework built around glib and orbit, developped inside the Gnome CVS. I am sure the slashdot crowd will pick this as "KDE depends on Gnome" and I would like to avoid it as much as I can. All I see happening here is very interesting. I am glad to see Trolltech, KDE and Sun cooperating on this and I am glad that we have an opportunity to bring something better than what exist on windows to people with disabilities. I remember blind people complaining about the price of assistive devices. I hope we will be part of the movement that will change that. I think I'll do a chapter in the next kde-traffic to sum-up what has happened here. And I think I'll ask all of you to participate in a big interview, basically to repeat all the information that were posted here. regards, Philippe _______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility