From kde Sat Nov 17 12:54:23 2012 From: "Georg C. F. Greve" Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:54:23 +0000 To: kde Subject: Re: [kde] Has the KDE Social/Semantic Desktop been worth the hassle to anyone? Message-Id: <1416147.WXExTnW3qj () katana ! lair> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde&m=135317364723830 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============3862653773452886508==" --===============3862653773452886508== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4852214.4WPcYyFT1P"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --nextPart4852214.4WPcYyFT1P Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Saturday 17 November 2012 10.44:04 Anne Wilson wrote: > I think the problem is that you are wrong about this. I think Akonadi > has been so deeply coded in that it was not possible to have it > deactivated and the applications still run. I think this is confusing Akonadi and Nepomuk, actually, which is a common mistake because the two were pitched together. Think of Akonadi as the email client protocol stack. Of course you can disable that, but then the applications that rely on it don't have the email protocols available. A "if you turn off the light, it is dark" scenario: "If you uninstall Firefox, you no longer have Firefox." Nepomuk on the other hand is what provides the semantic desktop and also has been used by Akonadi for some searches (e.g. address book) and thus when Nepomuk breaks, it looks like Akonadi is broken. Another reason for the misunderstanding, FWIW, since the functionality of Nepomuk is exposed through Akonadi for the user in this case. In any case: You can disable Nepomuk in the KDE settings (look into "Desktop Search") and separately tell it to index files or email. Is that a sane default setting? Probably not, because people who do not want such features are typically savvy enough to turn them off, while the opposite is usually not true. And then there isn't just "two kinds of people". There is billions. I know people who consider KDE in toto a waste of resource, because all they ever do is fire up emacs. Some people also don't use email clients, but copy their mbox file through ssh. And I am old enough to know people who considered compilers a waste of space and totally unnecessary because they wrote machine code as hex numbers directly. So if you don't like it, don't use it. Personally I have also suffered from Nepomuk, in particular, and only recently started having "wow, this is actually useful" experiences. Which is why I understand people questioning its usefulness. Best regards, Georg -- Georg C. F. Greve Member of the General Assembly http://fsfe.org/about/greve/ http://blogs.fsfe.org/greve/ http://identi.ca/greve --nextPart4852214.4WPcYyFT1P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUAUKeI/yk9sUy32wQcAQLMoAQAs0gHudF/6fr2l+eAgxDpNBiiEpIY1eEm Iot1CcZ41ghZx76SSGvZhcCeLrX7e0u5sZUOevDgaIzARA/S9/YlRtROP3J5clEy SPoIESyhRJR6URApY9BgY/lKk/2bxzEkbV5WeyI4jKSFLzpAMOL/kSZM3TEfiQTJ lISQzzrMoXQ= =S8Fl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4852214.4WPcYyFT1P-- --===============3862653773452886508== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. --===============3862653773452886508==--