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Subject:    Re: [kde] KDE Desktop effects
From:       "dE ." <de.techno () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-09-19 2:18:33
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It's using opengl?

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On Sep 18, 2012 1:39 PM, "Bogus Zaba" <bogsub@bogzab.plus.com> wrote:

> On 09/18/2012 02:21 AM, Duncan wrote:
> 
> > Bogus Zaba posted on Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:13:42 +0100 as excerpted:
> > 
> > Did not work, but maybe there there is a clue here because this middle
> > > tab is...
> > > completely empty! There is a one-line text box into which you can type a
> > > search term and a much bigger box which presumably should contain a long
> > > list of effects which I should be able to play with.
> > > This is weird because the system clearly does know about available
> > > effects because on the first tab I have set (for example) : Effect for
> > > window switching to "Box Switch" from a pick-list.
> > > 
> > Wow!  I'd say that probably has something to do with it, for sure!  But
> > it's totally out of the blue, for me.  I've never seen or heard anything
> > like it!
> > 
> > Two possibilities and if those (and sdowdy's suggestions) don't pan out,
> > hit bugzilla and see if there's anything close.  I'd say file a bug if
> > you don't find anything like it, but what they're working on now is one
> > and a half to two years of development beyond the 4.6 you're running, so
> > it's probably not worth even thinking about at this point, if there's
> > nothing already there about it.  Once the new Slackware's out and you're
> > on 4.8.x, however, if the bug's still there, I'd file it.
> > 
> > There are only two possibilities I can think of that would be anywhere
> > /close/ to that.
> > 
> > 1) Check to be sure, you're running kwin as the window manager, correct?
> > Obviously if it somehow got replaced by compiz or the like, there'd be
> > some dramatic loss of window manager configurability within kde, but I've
> > never tried it, so I'm not sure what the symptoms would look like.
> > 
> > Probably the easiest way to be sure kwin's your window manager is to run
> > kwin --replace, from krunner or the like.  You might also try from konsole
> > or the like, and see if it spits out any useful information as errors,
> > but if it's like most kde apps, devs apparently don't expect users to be
> > watching STDOUT/STDERR at all, so they print out all kinds of alarming
> > looking stuff even when things are working, for all one can tell.  As a
> > result, that output tends to be useless for troubleshooting unless you
> > have another similarly configured system that's working to try it on as
> > well, and can do a diff to eliminate all the "normal noise".
> > 
> > 
> > kwin --replace seemed to work just fine - everything looked exactly like
> it did prior to the command, plus I got the following valuable (?) output
> in konsole. It is clearly warning me that some effects are not supported,
> although it remains a mystery as to why.
> 
> 
> bogzab:~/Documents> kwin --replace
> OpenGL vendor string:                   NVIDIA Corporation
> OpenGL renderer string:                 GeForce 7300 SE/7200
> GS/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
> OpenGL version string:                  2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.33
> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
> Driver:                                 NVIDIA
> Driver version:                         295.33
> GPU class:                              NV40/G70
> OpenGL version:                         2.1.2
> GLSL version:                           1.20
> X server version:                       1.9.5
> Linux kernel version:                   2.6.37
> Direct rendering:                       yes
> Requires strict binding:                no
> GLSL shaders:                           limited
> Texture NPOT support:                   yes
> kwin(1021) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::**loadEffect:
> EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_blur"  is not supported
> kwin(1021) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::**loadEffect:
> EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_flipswitch"  is not
> supported
> kwin(1021) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::**loadEffect:
> EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_startupfeedback" is not
> supported
> kwin(1021) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::**loadEffect:
> EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_screenshot"  is not
> supported
> kwin(1021) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::**loadEffect:
> EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  "kwin4_effect_coverswitch"  is not
> supported
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<p>It&#39;s using opengl?<br></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 18, 2012 1:39 PM, &quot;Bogus Zaba&quot; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:bogsub@bogzab.plus.com">bogsub@bogzab.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br \
type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On 09/18/2012 02:21 AM, Duncan \
wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Bogus Zaba posted on Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:13:42 +0100 as \
excerpted:<br> <br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Did not work, but maybe there there is a clue here because \
this middle<br> tab is...<br>
completely empty! There is a one-line text box into which you can type a<br>
search term and a much bigger box which presumably should contain a long<br>
list of effects which I should be able to play with.<br>
This is weird because the system clearly does know about available<br>
effects because on the first tab I have set (for example) : Effect for<br>
window switching to &quot;Box Switch&quot; from a pick-list.<br>
</blockquote>
Wow!  I&#39;d say that probably has something to do with it, for sure!  But<br>
it&#39;s totally out of the blue, for me.  I&#39;ve never seen or heard anything<br>
like it!<br>
<br>
Two possibilities and if those (and sdowdy&#39;s suggestions) don&#39;t pan out,<br>
hit bugzilla and see if there&#39;s anything close.  I&#39;d say file a bug if<br>
you don&#39;t find anything like it, but what they&#39;re working on now is one<br>
and a half to two years of development beyond the 4.6 you&#39;re running, so<br>
it&#39;s probably not worth even thinking about at this point, if there&#39;s<br>
nothing already there about it.  Once the new Slackware&#39;s out and you&#39;re<br>
on 4.8.x, however, if the bug&#39;s still there, I&#39;d file it.<br>
<br>
There are only two possibilities I can think of that would be anywhere<br>
/close/ to that.<br>
<br>
1) Check to be sure, you&#39;re running kwin as the window manager, correct?<br>
Obviously if it somehow got replaced by compiz or the like, there&#39;d be<br>
some dramatic loss of window manager configurability within kde, but I&#39;ve<br>
never tried it, so I&#39;m not sure what the symptoms would look like.<br>
<br>
Probably the easiest way to be sure kwin&#39;s your window manager is to run<br>
kwin --replace, from krunner or the like.  You might also try from konsole<br>
or the like, and see if it spits out any useful information as errors,<br>
but if it&#39;s like most kde apps, devs apparently don&#39;t expect users to be<br>
watching STDOUT/STDERR at all, so they print out all kinds of alarming<br>
looking stuff even when things are working, for all one can tell.  As a<br>
result, that output tends to be useless for troubleshooting unless you<br>
have another similarly configured system that&#39;s working to try it on as<br>
well, and can do a diff to eliminate all the &quot;normal noise&quot;.<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
kwin --replace seemed to work just fine - everything looked exactly like it did prior \
to the command, plus I got the following valuable (?) output in konsole. It is \
clearly warning me that some effects are not supported, although it remains a mystery \
as to why.<br>

<br>
<br>
bogzab:~/Documents&gt; kwin --replace<br>
OpenGL vendor string:                   NVIDIA Corporation<br>
OpenGL renderer string:                 GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!<br>
OpenGL version string:                  2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.33<br>
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler<br>
Driver:                                 NVIDIA<br>
Driver version:                         295.33<br>
GPU class:                              NV40/G70<br>
OpenGL version:                         2.1.2<br>
GLSL version:                           1.20<br>
X server version:                       1.9.5<br>
Linux kernel version:                   2.6.37<br>
Direct rendering:                       yes<br>
Requires strict binding:                no<br>
GLSL shaders:                           limited<br>
Texture NPOT support:                   yes<br>
kwin(1021) KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::<u></u>loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : \
Effect  &quot;kwin4_effect_blur&quot;  is not supported<br> kwin(1021) \
KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::<u></u>loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  \
&quot;kwin4_effect_flipswitch&quot;  is not supported<br> kwin(1021) \
KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::<u></u>loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  \
&quot;kwin4_effect_startupfeedback&quot; is not supported<br> kwin(1021) \
KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::<u></u>loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  \
&quot;kwin4_effect_screenshot&quot;  is not supported<br> kwin(1021) \
KWin::EffectsHandlerImpl::<u></u>loadEffect: EffectsHandler::loadEffect : Effect  \
&quot;kwin4_effect_coverswitch&quot;  is not supported<br> <br>
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