From kde Fri Apr 08 06:33:30 2011 From: gene heskett Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:33:30 +0000 To: kde Subject: [kde] Re: 4.6.2 early report Message-Id: <201104080233.30413.gheskett () wdtv ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde&m=130224451916042 On Friday, April 08, 2011 02:08:02 AM Duncan did opine: > gene heskett posted on Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:09:52 -0400 as excerpted: > > I tried that. The new user also has no top bar of a window > > decorations. > > > > Wandering around in ~/.kde4, I found a bunch of what look like junk > > directories in .kde and .kde4 subdirs of .kde4 and nuked those, but > > what seems odd is that there are a lot of *rc files in .kde4/share > > that not even root can look at with less, no error when root tries, > > just no response. > > That sounds VERY MUCH like filesystem damage, perhaps due to failing > storage hardware! What filesystem are you using? > > You mentioned amanda virtual tapes, so I assume you have good backups. > If not, be worried. > I do. I also have smartd watching things, but the only thing its consistently spamming the logs with are tempurature changes. a degree up and back down, and those are arbitrary, usually in the 33C range. >, If you're lucky and it's just the filesystem, not the hardware, a good > fsck should help. Some of the data that /was/ in those files may end > up in lost&found, and the files will likely either be deleted or > truncated to zero size. Does touching /.autofsck still work? > If you fsck and it finds and fixes the damage, try another fsck. If it > finds more damage, you're probably losing the disk. If not, try > rebooting and another fsck. If that one too comes up clean, at least > the disk isn't falling down around your ears, but I'd still keep a very > close watch on it. > > Normally, *rc files shouldn't be in ~/.kde4/share/ itself. Rather, > there's normally quite a few in share/config/, but none in share itself. share/config, yes, that is where they are, and perhaps I miss-typed. Ancient fingers don't always keep up with the thoughts driving them. > If they're in share itself, something strange is definitely going on. > Again, it could be filesystem or hardware damage, but from my > experience, they don't just drop left a directory in the tree in that > case, but drop to the filesystem root or to to lost&found. But that > could be filesystem specific. (FWIW, my experience is mostly with > reiserfs, which I've used for years and has, barring disk hardware > issues, been quite dependable since the data=ordered patch to the > kernel several years ago now (let's not talk about before that), even > with the stick of bad memory I had for awhile. But I had disk hardware > issues due to an AC going out here in the Phoenix summer a few years > ago too, resulting in disk overheating and a head crash, thus my > experience both with chaotic shutdown software filesystem issues before > data=ordered, and with hardware filesystem issues a bit more recently.) These were all 'xtgz' files IIRC. Using ext3/4, probably 4 on the /home partition. We won't talk about our experience with reiserfs, it cost us about $1k to recover a drive with 95% of our inhouse news graphics on it, yonks ago now and we swore off it in favor of a 4 disk raid once we'ed recovered the graphics. > In addition to the disks I'd check your power supply. Perhaps the > problem is that it doesn't have enough power for the disks, or perhaps > your incoming power simply isn't good. gkrellm has been watching that, its holding well at plus 2% of nominal. And the ups, a 1500wa unit, handles the glitches in the power. > > And my konsoles are AFU again, foreground & background colors are > > randomized but matched, so one can't see the output till he does a > > mouse drag over the output to highlight it. > > > > mc seems to be slowly self destructing too. > > > > I may yet have to re-install on a different drive. :-( > > Given the indications, that may well be a good idea! > > Good luck! It sounds like you might need a bit, right now! Better health would be a plus right now. Despite current on pneumonia shots, they are treating me as if I have it. 10 pills, $181 & change. And at my age, that can be a scary thought. I may go get a fresh 64 bit pclos cd and put it on /dev/sdb tomorrow. This is a 32 bit install, but I think 64 has pretty well caught up these days. I even hear flash can be had in 64 bit now. I haven't run memtest86 recently either, and its possible I need to reseat the sticks, I have had to do that 2x before. A $300 Asus mobo has crappy memory sockets! Thanks & good night. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Nothing is faster than the speed of light ... To prove this to yourself, try opening the refrigerator door before the light comes on. ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.