From kde  Thu Jan 08 17:41:22 2009
From: Kevin Krammer <kevin.krammer () gmx ! at>
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:41:22 +0000
To: kde
Subject: Re: [kde] Video player
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On Thursday 08 January 2009, John wrote:
> On Thursday 08 January 2009 16:29:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Thursday 2009 January 08 10:09:00 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > >My intention is in filing an Akonadi-related integration feature
> > >request, so I am looking for the flagship KDE video player to file
> > >against.  Are
> > >there any full-featured video players shipped with KDE?
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge: Not currently.
>
> Don't know why I bother really but where ever you post you need to grasp
> the front end bit I mentioned earlier. The other bit that actually does t=
he
> work might be called the back end. As far as I am aware there are only 2
> back ends. Xine and Mplayer. Maybe Kevin could chime in on that point.
> Clearly the facilities available in the back end limit what can be done in
> the front end. The front end may not even make use of all of the faciliti=
es
> available in the back end. Mplayer and it's associated code will do all
> sorts of things for instance. This front end back end arrangement applies
> to most kde apps even k3b.

There is at least another one base on GStreamer, developed and maintained b=
y=20
Trolltech/Qt Software.
It might even become or already be the default one.

I don't have any more information about whether one of them provides more=20
features than others. If anyone is interested in that kind of information,=
=20
they can probably ask on kde-multimedia.

> On flagship apps. KDE is a DESKTOP that runs apps as is Gnome and a number
> of others. As far as I'm aware Kaffeine is the most fully featured KDE
> video app and is likely to remain so. That's where you should post but if
> your changes fall outside of the pure video features that Xine can provide
> maybe you need to post there as well. Me I long for a fast and slow play
> facility.

More precisely, KDE has evolved into a community working on different Free=
=20
Culture aspects such as software, content, artwork, etc.
One of the products so to speak is a desktop workspace for Unix/X11 based=20
systems, others are a suite of applications for a wide range of use cases a=
nd=20
an application development framework for building such applications.

The application suite does not contain any digital video collection managem=
ent=20
application yet, though the huge success of Amarok as a digitial audio=20
collection management application and improvements in the capabilities of=20
Phonon might encourage a group of developers to use the same application=20
framework in order to build one.

Whether such an application becomes part of the KDE application suite (such=
 as=20
Dragon Player) or keeps doing releases on its own (such as Amarok) is up to=
=20
the respective developers and their goals (in a fast moving area such as=20
multimedia, applications which want to provide up to date functionality mig=
ht=20
rather have more control over their release cycles)

Cheers,
Kevin

=2D-=20
Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring

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