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Subject:    [kc-kde] [PATCH] for #15
From:       Rob Kaper <cap () capsi ! com>
Date:       2001-06-24 14:45:16
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Take this summary for the styles instead, it fixes some errors. Thanks to
the guys on #kde!

Rob
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<section
	title="Mosfet's code is dead, long live Mosfet's code!"
	author="Rob Kaper"
	email="cap@capsi.com"
	subject="Maintenance of Mosfet's KWin and Widget styles"
	archive="http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=99314531801069&w=2"
	posts="6"
	startdate="June 21, 2001 02:46:15 +0000"
	enddate="June 21, 2001 17:39:38 +0000"
>
<p>
Initially <a href="http://kt.zork.net/kde/kde20010615_14.html">issue 14</a>
of KC KDE would have covered the announcement of the new Liquid style by
Mosfet (Daniel M. Duley), but it has probably not gone unnoticed that the
situation ignited, unfortunately at the same time as my deadline to cover
it.</p>
<p>
I would either have to leave those events out and write a summary already
outdated on the moment it would be published. Or I could include them but
only include some of the earliest posts, leaving more questions than
answers, a lot of room for flamebait and incomplete or partial
arguments.</p>
<p>
Therefore I decided not to cover it at all for last week, I believe the
issue has been covered enough in various places already and my personal
opinion isn't much more than "ok, Mosfet and KDE don't get along anymore,
that sucks, now let's move on and get back to coding".</p>
<p>
The very short story is:</p>
<ul>
<li>
Mosfet wanted Liquid to be part of kdelibs, but some thought this was not
timing was not a good idea due to the 2.2 beta1 freeze. There were also some
possible legal issues with Liquid.</li>
<li>
Furthermore, kdelibs is quite large already so Mosfet was asked to move some
styles (especially the testing ones) to kdeartwork or kdenonbeta.</li>
</ul>
<p>
The situation did not resolve itself. Mosfet felt critized and others felt
that he should give in a bit because for the benefit of the masses (the KDE
users).</p>
<p>
Because some of the code Mosfet contributed to KDE are critical parts for a
release such as his KWin and Widget styles, the KDE project has forked this
code while Mosfet will still develop his own versions and release them
seperately.</p>
<p>
Neil Stevens wrote: <quote who="Neil Stevens">I just found out, to my
surprise, that I volunteered to do the System++ style. That's fine by me,
I'll take it and add to it what it needs, but it shows there's a little
confusion going on.  Do we know who's taking over for Mosfet for maintenance
of the various things of his that are remaining in cvs?  Perhaps it's a good
idea if we just spell out here who's doing what, so that we don't get any
nasty surprises later on.</quote></p>
<p>
An answer was provided by Karol Szwed:</p>
<quote who="Karol Szwed">
<p>
Currently from what I know the following is happening, which may be
subject to change:</p>
<p>
KWin style    Maintainer<br/>
==============================<br/>
b2          - Michael Matz<br/>
system++    - Neil Stevens<br/>
riscos, web - Rik Hemsley<br/>
laptop      - lenny and myself<br/>
default, win2k, quartz, icewm, modernsys - me<br/>
kde1        - Not sure about this one, probably me
</p>
<p>
Any others I haven't listed are free for volunteers - if there's no
interest, I'll maintain them. I do not know about what's happening with
kstep.</p>
<p>
Does not having kwmtheme break the theme stuff?</p>
<p>
Kstyles<br/>
=======<br/>
highcolor and locolor default - not sure yet<br/>
megagradient  - Ralf delegated this one to me<br/>
web           - Rik Hemsley<br/>
klegacy       - I know who doesn't want to maintain this ;)<br/>
any others    - not sure yet
</p>
<p>
People who worked on these styles and are still interested, please
let me know - if not, I'll probably maintain them for now.</p>
<p>
While the list of new maintainers is not complete yet and subject to change,
it looks like this is still a happy end as far as the KDE users are
concerned. Upcoming KDE versions will continue to include their favourite
styles and Mosfet can release the fruits of his creative skills, without
having to face restrictions that come with being part of a larger whole.</p>
</section>


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