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Subject: Re: [ jEdit-devel ] Oracle Licensing
From: Michael H <cmahte () gmail ! com>
Date: 2019-05-29 13:40:06
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re: Oracle Licensing of Java.
re:
https://community.software.sil.org/t/oracle-changed-license-for-java-se-8-you-must-decide-what-to-do-dab/2184
A recommendation from another discussion group is to use Coretto. (
https://aws.amazon.com/corretto/) I've never heard of Coretto, but I
thought I'd throw it out here, for anyone who might be experiencing issues
(especially replacing JavaFX, which according to the other discussion is
fully supported in Coretto.)
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:24 PM Jesse Pavel <jpavel@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Just for running jEdit, I'd recommend using OpenJDK 8 with the Hotspot JVM.
>
> Either the JDK or JRE will work fine, unless you're planning to compile
> Java code on your own, in which case you'd need the JDK.
>
> Best,
> Jesse
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 5:28 PM Michael H <cmahte@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Jesse,
> >
> > Do you recommend (for jedit)
> > OpenJDK 8 (LTS) or OpenJDK 11 (LTS)?
> > Hotspot or OpenJ9 for the VM
> > Is there any benefit within Jedit program to installing the full JDK. I
> > run recorded macro beanshell scripts (that are then pretty heavily
> > modified,) but that's as close to programming as I get.
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 4:16 PM Jesse Pavel <jpavel@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > You can get pre-built OpenJDK binaries (including installers) for the
> > > Mac from
> > >
> > > https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html#x64_mac
> > >
> > > Once you have that installed, you should be able to remove the Oracle
> > > JRE, and needn't worry about the licensing changes.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jesse
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 4:38 PM Michael H <cmahte@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I booted a mac for the first time in a few months and Java wanted to
> > > > update. This time it included a lot red letters warning me the license for
> > > > the JRE has changed, and is now personal use only.
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand well enough, but the JRE is required to run jedit,
> > > > and stuff that I edit with jedit may then be released with a Creative
> > > > Commons license which does not exclude commercial activity. I feel like
> > > > this exceeds the license which Oracle is now extending.
> > > >
> > > > So I'm reading about how to avoid having to keep up with an apparently
> > > > time limited license, and it seems OpenJDK is the answer. OpenJDK is
> > > > already on linux, but its not clearly available for mac, and although I can
> > > > deal with installing it, I'm not sure on a system that already has both
> > > > Apple JRE and Oracle JRE that I can effectively remove any
> > > > unlicensed/improper to use for a CC3-BY license release. Does anyone have
> > > > pointers to expert advice on the use of something like jedit in Oracles new
> > > > licensing scheme? I've already been working on putting my mac out to
> > > > pasture. This may have accelerated the process.
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> > > > jEdit Developers' List
> > > > jEdit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel
> > > >
> > >
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">re: Oracle Licensing of Java. \
<br><br>re: <a href="https://community.software.sil.org/t/oracle-changed-license-for- \
java-se-8-you-must-decide-what-to-do-dab/2184">https://community.software.sil.org/t/or \
acle-changed-license-for-java-se-8-you-must-decide-what-to-do-dab/2184</a><br><br>A \
recommendation from another discussion group is to use Coretto. (<a \
href="https://aws.amazon.com/corretto/" \
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">https://aws.amazon.com/corretto/</a>) \
I've never heard of Coretto, but I thought I'd throw it out here, for anyone \
who might be experiencing issues (especially replacing JavaFX, which according to the \
other discussion is fully supported in Coretto.) <br><br><br></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:24 PM \
Jesse Pavel <<a href="mailto:jpavel@alum.mit.edu">jpavel@alum.mit.edu</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi \
Michael,<div><br></div><div>Just for running jEdit, I'd recommend using OpenJDK 8 \
with the Hotspot JVM.</div><div><br></div><div>Either the JDK or JRE will work fine, \
unless you're planning to compile Java code on your own, in which case you'd \
need the JDK.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Jesse</div><div><br></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 5:28 PM \
Michael H <<a href="mailto:cmahte@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">cmahte@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Thanks Jesse, <br><br>Do you \
recommend (for jedit)<br>OpenJDK 8 (LTS) or OpenJDK 11 (LTS)?<br>Hotspot or OpenJ9 \
for the VM<br>Is there any benefit within Jedit program to installing the full JDK. \
I run recorded macro beanshell scripts (that are then pretty heavily modified,) but \
that's as close to programming as I get. </div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 4:16 PM \
Jesse Pavel <<a href="mailto:jpavel@alum.mit.edu" \
target="_blank">jpavel@alum.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Michael,<div><br></div><div>You \
can get pre-built OpenJDK binaries (including installers) for the Mac \
from</div><div><br></div><div> <a \
href="https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html#x64_mac" \
target="_blank">https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html#x64_mac</a><br><br>Once you \
have that installed, you should be able to remove the Oracle JRE, and needn't \
worry about the licensing \
changes.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Jesse</div><div><br></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 4:38 PM \
Michael H <<a href="mailto:cmahte@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">cmahte@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I booted a mac for the first time \
in a few months and Java wanted to update. This time it included a lot red letters \
warning me the license for the JRE has changed, and is now personal use only. \
<br><br>I don't understand well enough, but the JRE is required to run jedit, and \
stuff that I edit with jedit may then be released with a Creative Commons license \
which does not exclude commercial activity. I feel like this exceeds the license \
which Oracle is now extending. <br><br>So I'm reading about how to avoid having \
to keep up with an apparently time limited license, and it seems OpenJDK is the \
answer. OpenJDK is already on linux, but its not clearly available for mac, and \
although I can deal with installing it, I'm not sure on a system that already has \
both Apple JRE and Oracle JRE that I can effectively remove any unlicensed/improper \
to use for a CC3-BY license release. Does anyone have pointers to expert advice on \
the use of something like jedit in Oracles new licensing scheme? I've already \
been working on putting my mac out to pasture. This may have accelerated the process. \
</div></div>
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