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Subject:    OT - Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP
From:       David Fisher <dfisher () jmlafferty ! com>
Date:       2007-05-11 0:42:15
Message-ID: B0D93CB3-9C13-4500-9C2A-6AE46AD61C9A () jmlafferty ! com
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Sorry. No. Not on this list.

(1) Go to http://tomcat.apache.com look for their email list and ask  
your question on that list.

(2) Please learn to be much more polite, as you have been very rude  
in your earlier "replies."

(3) Questions belong in a new email message and not in a reply.

Thank you very much.

Regards,
Dave

On May 10, 2007, at 7:30 PM, Jean Carlo Salas wrote:

> did you why Apache Tomcat dosn't run in Vista??
>
> On 5/10/07, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 5/10/07, Ted Husted <husted@apache.org> wrote:
>> > On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <bayard@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > [ ] +1 I support the proposal
>> > > [ ] +0 I don't care
>> > > [x] -1  I'm opposed to the proposal because...
>> >
>> > I do not feel the draft resolution adequately addresses several
>> > remarks made in the discussion thread.
>>
>> I'm in agreement with Niall. I think both of the quotes below are
>> mine, so I'll respond to those.
>>
>> >
>> > The resolution should address issues raised as to the scope of  
>> the PMC
>> > and the use of the commons namespace. Comments on the other thread
>> > included remarks like
>> >
>> > * "We'll do whatever the community wants to do. If someone  
>> proposes a
>> > Ruby library and we have a community interested in creating and
>> > supporting a Ruby library, then it would of course be strongly
>> > considered. "
>>
>> Yep, I stand by this one. Look at Jakarta's resolution and what
>> Jakarta does now - it's clear that the community overrules the
>> resolution and I expect it's up to the board to complain if they feel
>> it's gone too far.
>>
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > * "Multiple PMCs, one website. So we'd have Java Commons, Ruby
>> > Commons, BobsYourUncle Commons PMCs, and they'd all share a
>> > commons.apache.org website."
>>
>> This one was definitely a random suggestion. If we reach a point of
>> impasse with another commons wanting to start, then I (with board hat
>> on) think the solution would be to have multiple PMCs and 1 website.
>> Or maybe that really means a portal and a site behind it. All
>> hypothetical though - XML Commons is dead, DB Commons never happened
>> and WS Commons is afaik not highly active. We do own the Commons  
>> space
>> currently.
>>
>> > But, as it stands, the resolution implies that the proposed PMC  
>> will
>> > be excluded to Java and would own both the top-level "Commons"  
>> project
>> > name and the "commons.apache.org" namespace. Neither remark is
>> > addressed.
>>
>> Yep. Personally I think that we don't need Java there. For two  
>> reasons:
>>
>> 1) It's community and day to day life that determines our scope, more
>> so than a resoltion.
>> 2) It's (let's face it) an easier sell without Java in the text.
>>
>> However the consensus was very clearly in favour of having Java in  
>> the
>> resolution.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > Let the focus of this PMC remain on Java, but, in the Apache  
>> spirit of
>> > openness and collaboration, make way for other Apache Commons  
>> projects
>> > in other languages.
>>
>> Sure - but let's discuss that then rather than now. Hypotheticals  
>> will
>> just keep us spinning emails out ad infinitum.
>>
>> Hen
>>
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>
>
> -- 
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>
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