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Subject:    Re: [math] Porting someone else's work (license and all that)
From:       Phil Steitz <phil.steitz () gmail ! com>
Date:       2011-09-29 14:44:18
Message-ID: 45B14D99-9EBA-4D92-A1B9-110B154D3AF3 () gmail ! com
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Great work, Sebastien!

Technically, the ICLA or software grant should be submitted directly to the secretary \
by the contributor, but I would just go ahead and send it along.  There is no need to \
provide any explanation. 

Pls forward Michael's note below to private@commons.apache.org, so we have an admin \
record of it.  I don't think we need to ask for a grant or formal assignment of \
copyright for the code being ported, given Michael's note below.  Does anyone else?

Have fun with the port!

Phil



On Sep 28, 2011, at 9:43 PM, Sébastien Brisard <sebastien.brisard@m4x.org> wrote:

> Good news! Please read below Pr. Saunders's answer. Should I send the
> ICLA through the usual way (secretary@ if I remember well), or shhould
> I use another channel, explaining precisely to the recipient at Apache
> what it is all about?
> Sébastien
> 
> Dear Sébastien,
> 
> Thank you for your interest in SYMMLQ and for explaining the background
> in detail.  Certainly I'm glad for you to make use of the code in this way.
> I'm sorry I haven't done anything to the Fortran and Matlab versions for a
> long time.  Our SOL website points to python versions in case they are of
> interest.  MINRES and MINRES-QLP would also be suitable for indefinite
> systems (and sometimes preferable -- e.g., if you wish to terminate early).
> (We have a new f90 implementation of MINRES-QLP.)
> 
> I'd be glad to hear a little about your materials application in case a
> particular feature suggests a preferable solver.
> 
> The CPL was rather arbitrary.  It's fine to use the Apache license too.
> A signed copy is attached.
> 
> Best wishes for this endeavor,
> Michael
> 
> Michael Saunders
> Professor (Research)
> Stanford University
> 
> Le 29 septembre 2011 06:38, Sébastien Brisard
> <sebastien.brisard@m4x.org> a écrit :
> > Hi Phil,
> > no Java code available. I'm polishing up my port, will submit it in
> > the coming days (weeks?) for you to review
> > Sébastien
> > 
> > 2011/9/28 Phil Steitz <phil.steitz@gmail.com>:
> > > On 9/27/11 11:58 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> > > > CPL is a weak-copyleft license - ie) putting source derived from it
> > > > inside Commons Math will make all of Commons Math CPL licensed.
> > > > 
> > > > If Mr Saunders is the only copyright owner, and were happy to sign a
> > > > grant or ICLA, then the CPL wouldn't apply in our use of it (ie: no
> > > > issue).
> > > 
> > > Right, probably a software grant would be appropriate.  Is the Java
> > > code available anywhere that we can look at, or are you talking
> > > about creating a Java port?
> > > 
> > > Phil
> > > > 
> > > > Hen
> > > > 
> > > > 2011/9/27 Sébastien Brisard <sebastien.brisard@m4x.org>:
> > > > > Dear Commons-Math community,
> > > > > I've recently been using quite extensively the SYMMLQ linear iterative
> > > > > solver proposed by Page and Saunders, for its ability to handle
> > > > > symmetric *non-definite* systems. I know it's not the only one around,
> > > > > but that's not the point.
> > > > > My point is I would like to commit this implementation to the CM
> > > > > library. However, the core of the code is a mere port of the FORTRAN
> > > > > code downoadable on Pr. Saunders's homepage
> > > > > http://www.stanford.edu/group/SOL/software/symmlq.html. The FORTRAN
> > > > > source comes with a license, which I include here for the sake of
> > > > > completeness
> > > > > {quote}
> > > > > symmlq_f77.README
> > > > > 
> > > > > The software for SYMMLQ (f77 version) is provided by SOL, Stanford \
> > > > > University under the terms of the OSI Common Public License (CPL):
> > > > > http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cpl1.0.php
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 11 Feb 2000: First set of files available for download from SOL.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please send comments to Michael Saunders, SOL, Stanford University
> > > > > saunders@stanford.edu  650-723-1875
> > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >  
> > > > > The f77 version of SYMMLQ involves the following files:
> > > > > 
> > > > > symmlq.f
> > > > > symmlqblas.f   (not needed if you have BLAS-1)
> > > > > symmlqtest.f
> > > > > {quote}
> > > > > My question is: how do I proceed from here? Is the CPL compatible with
> > > > > the Apache License (I think it is)? Courtesy would probably require to
> > > > > get in touch with Pr. Saunders. Do you allow me to do it on behalf of
> > > > > the CM community? Maybe one of the historical committers would rather
> > > > > do it? If Pr. Saunders agrees on signing the Commons License
> > > > > Agreement, would it still be required that the CPL be included?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for your answers,
> > > > > Sébastien
> > > > > 
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