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List:       jabber-jdev
Subject:    Re: [jdev] SJ Messenger
From:       rveratechnology () gmail ! com
Date:       2014-04-10 19:59:34
Message-ID: 227896485-1397159978-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-22948335- () b1 ! c7 ! bise6 ! blackberry
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
Sender: "JDev" <jdev-bounces@jabber.org>Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:45:07 
To: Jabber/XMPP software development list<jdev@jabber.org>
Reply-To: Jabber/XMPP software development list <jdev@jabber.org>
Subject: Re: [jdev] SJ Messenger

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.

Q: Why is top-posting so bad?

A: Top-posting.

Q: What is the most annoying behavior on email discussion lists?

On 4/2/14, 2:31 PM, The Boss wrote:
> Thanks for your reply Peter...
> 
> On the website its first version of SJ...(1.0)

Yes, I saw that, which is why I said before that you were making a 
good-faith effort to fix your problem with the JABBER trademark.

> of course we update some design to change a name....

Yes, I recognize that changing the name of a software product is not so 
easy (we've seen that before in this community with Jive Messenger's 
change to Wildfire and then Openfire).

> also we have done job with off-the-record encryption...
> 
> Now SJ support PGP and OTR encryption.... ( windows,  ios)

That's great.

Do you have plans to correct the "SafetyJabber" strings in your next 
release?

Peter

> 
> 
> 
> Отправлено с iPhone
> 
> > 2 апр. 2014, в 23:11, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> \
> > написал(а): 
> > > On 4/1/14, 3:48 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > > > On 4/1/14, 1:28 PM, The Boss wrote:
> > > > Why SJ messenger has been removed from xmpp.org client list???????
> > > 
> > > I did not remove it!
> > > 
> > > However, I will find out who did.
> > 
> > OK, here is what I discovered.
> > 
> > 1. Ludovic Bocquet removed SJ from the list because he thinks that your software \
> > is still in violation of the JABBER trademark and he thinks that he has the right \
> > to enforce the trademark. However, he does not have such a right. I have reduced \
> > his privileges at xmpp.org so that he cannot do this again. 
> > 2. Your website talks about "SJ IM" but the software itself still has text about \
> > "Safety Jabber", as least in the OS X version that I just downloaded (the splash \
> > screen says "Safety Jabber 1.0", the about page says "SafetyJabber commercial \
> > version 1.0", etc.). 
> > Although it is not the XSF's job to enforce the JABBER trademark, I would be \
> > quite happy to contact the trademark owner (Cisco Systems, Inc.) and tell them \
> > about your software. 
> > Do you have plans to correct the text in your software and release an updated \
> > version? 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> > 
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