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Subject: Re: [JDEV] (no subject)
From: "Glenn Young" <GYoung () ndos ! net>
Date: 2001-04-30 18:05:09
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Yes, it's possible for it to be done.. By having the jabber server send presence for \
every user to the individual servers.. But it'd be very complex
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Brown
To: jdev@jabber.org
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 12:51 PM
Subject: [JDEV] (no subject)
Peter Saint-Andre suggested that I pose this question to the list, and make it into \
a a suggestion. Here is my original question to him:
---
Let's say Ive got the 1.4.1 server up and running with the AOL and MSN transports \
also installed. I've got three users:
1. Me (WinJab user)
2. You (AIM user)
3. Someoneelse (MSN user)
Will user 2 and user 3 be able to IM one another, or can only user 1 IM with users \
2 and 3? In other words, is it possible to have jabberd running and have NO users \
running a jabber client? What I'm trying to avoid is setting up this service, then \
having all my users have to switch their IM clients to a jabber client. I personally \
love WinJab, but many of my users are reluctant to swith from AIM or MSN. Will they \
be able to IM each other?
---
This, after a couple of e-mails to Peter, seemed like it could work, but is not \
presently part of the plans for the jabber server. So my suggestion is this. I \
believe that you would have a tremendously powerful platform if the jabber server \
could send and receive from any (AIM, MSN, ICQ, YAHOO) client and send to any client. \
In other words, if jabber could serve as a unifying server to these various clients, \
you'd have a hell of a market for this. To give you an example, I run a "community" \
web service called dinnertablechitchat.com. This service allows families or groups a \
personal space to exchange news, pictures, wishlists, etc. The site is in beta and \
so far has about 200 users, spanning 70 groups. I recently sent out an e-mail to the \
users to ask what they would like to see added to the site, and they OVERWHELMINGLY \
responded: instant messaging and chat. I followed up with a question about whether \
they would be willing to use a new client for it, and they said no. They wanted to \
stick with what they've got. That's what prompted the above question to Peter. And \
I'm sure my 200 member (but growing :) site is tiny compared to some of the \
established sites out there, and a platform that would allow any IM client to speak \
to any other IM client would be very valuable.
My $0.02
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Sean Brown
brown_s_m@hotmail.com
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Yes, it's possible for it to be done.. By having the
jabber server send presence for every user to the individual servers.. But it'd
be very complex</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=brown_s_m@hotmail.com href="mailto:brown_s_m@hotmail.com">Sean
Brown</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jdev@jabber.org
href="mailto:jdev@jabber.org">jdev@jabber.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 30, 2001 12:51
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JDEV] (no subject)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Peter Saint-Andre suggested that I pose this question to the list, and
make it into a a suggestion. Here is my original question to him:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>---<BR>Let's say Ive got the 1.4.1 server up and running with the AOL and
MSN transports also installed. I've got three users:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1. Me (WinJab user)<BR>2. You (AIM user)<BR>3.
Someoneelse (MSN user)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Will user 2 and user 3 be able to IM one another, or can only user 1 IM
with users 2 and 3? In other words, is it possible to have jabberd
running and have NO users running a jabber client? What I'm trying to
avoid is setting up this service, then having all my users have to switch
their IM clients to a jabber client. I personally love WinJab, but many
of my users are reluctant to swith from AIM or MSN. Will they be able to
IM each other?</DIV>
<DIV>---</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This, after a couple of e-mails to Peter, seemed like it could work, but
is not presently part of the plans for the jabber server. So my
suggestion is this. I believe that you would have a tremendously
powerful platform if the jabber server could send and receive from any (AIM,
MSN, ICQ, YAHOO) client and send to any client. In other words, if
jabber could serve as a unifying server to these various clients, you'd have a
hell of a market for this. To give you an example, I run a "community"
web service called dinnertablechitchat.com. This service allows families
or groups a personal space to exchange news, pictures, wishlists, etc.
The site is in beta and so far has about 200 users, spanning 70 groups.
I recently sent out an e-mail to the users to ask what they would like to see
added to the site, and they OVERWHELMINGLY responded: instant messaging
and chat. I followed up with a question about whether they would be
willing to use a new client for it, and they said no. They wanted to stick
with what they've got. That's what prompted the above question to
Peter. And I'm sure my 200 member (but growing :) site is tiny compared
to some of the established sites out there, and a platform that would allow
any IM client to speak to any other IM client would be very valuable.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My $0.02</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>------------------<BR>Sean Brown<BR>brown_s_m@hotmail.com</DIV>
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