'Re: [Ispman-users] State of ispman?'

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List:       ispman-users
Subject:    Re: [Ispman-users] State of ispman?
From:       johannes.egger () tigerlair ! net
Date:       2011-05-03 5:16:36
Message-ID: 53493.80.109.105.209.1304399796.squirrel () arrakeen ! tigerlair ! org
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ispconfig 3 supports multiple servers.

Some things are counter-intuitive to me, and the overall architecture
isn't what I'd prefer (mysql vs ldap as a backend, etc) but even at that
it seems more "stable" at this point than ispman.

It needs some more polish, but I think it might turn out to be a good
replacement some time down the road.

One of my main problems with ispconfig 3 is that I don't trust the
sanity-checking of the UI. I seem to remember that mistakenly entering
something wrong in the DNS UI (either through a typo or by making a wrong
assumption about how it worked) caused the DNS server to shut down due to
incorrect zone file syntax. Since administration of specific DNS zones can
be delegated to end-users, this is not a good state of affairs.

There are other problems - i really dislike the inability to assign users
to other resellers once they've been set up. There may be other problems,
as I haven't dug into it deep enough.

Overall it is starting to look ok. Its good enough for me, knowing how to
work around some of its shortcomings.

Br,
J

> Atif,
>
> There is always interest.  ISPman has been pretty dead for several years
> but it fills my needs very well.  It excels at supporting mail servers
> that process large numbers of emails.  Each of my MX boxes currently
> process more then 500,000 emails a day.  That includes Amavis, SA,
> ClamAV, etc as well using LDAP for everything under postfix.  Even will
> all that running on the boxes there is still room to grow on the boxes.
>  These are PIV boxes not power houses.  I have no doubt a new system
> with decent IO could do millions.
>
> Once we converted ispman-agent from the daemon that crashed all the time
> to a cron task ispman just works and does what we need it to do.
> Unfortunately I don't know perl well enough to make it a proper command
> line option so I could submit a patch or I would.
>
> For the record I made the following changes to ispman-agent.
>
> Inside the file /opt/ispman/bin/ispman-agent I commented out the
> following line.
>
> ##      Change from Daemon to cron runable agent.
> ##        sleep( 60 * $agentFrequency );
>         unlink $pid_file && exit(0);
>
> Then created a cron job to run the agent every 5 mins.  You can reduce
> the time down some but in my group we found that 5 min that always ran
> on the numbers was predictable and manageable.
>
> /etc/cron.d/ispman_agent
> #!/bin/bash
> */5 * * * * root /opt/ispman/bin/ispman-agent nodetach
>
> PS I also added to following script on the master ldap system.  For
> nightly backups.  It is simple but it keeps ldap happy.
> /etc/cron.daily/ispman_daily_maintaince .  Note I run the webservice and
> master ldap on the same box so the script might has some dependence on
> the full ispman install but I don't think so.
>
> Thanks
> Robert
>
> On 12/18/2009 09:45 PM, Atif Ghaffar wrote:
>> If there is interest, I can revive the isp-director codebase to a state
>> where it is as usuable as the ispman project.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:05 PM, anebi.bg <http://anebi.bg>@gmail.com
>> <http://gmail.com> <anebi.bg <http://anebi.bg>@gmail.com
>> <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     i have checked some months ago different panels like ispCP and
>>     ispConfig, but i really didn't find any better application like
>>     architectures and organization of things inside like ISPMan.
>>
>>     I remember that Atif Ghaffar was started isp-director project, but
>> it
>>     looks that it will not continue to be developed as Atif informed
>>     already.
>>
>>     We are still using ISPMan, but we are also looking for an good
>>     alternative.
>>
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