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Subject: Re: [IPv6] [Int-area] Re: I-D Action: draft-templin-intarea-ipid-ext-00.txt
From: "Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin () boeing ! com>
Date: 2023-07-30 19:20:37
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Understood and thank you, Chris; we can limit correspondences to the intarea and ipv6 \
lists. The draft defines options for both IPv4 and IPv6, so both lists seem \
appropriate.
I received the comment from Herbie Robinson but did not receive a copy of the comment \
from Joe Touch; could be list email exploders acting up again…
Fred
From: Moderators <moderators@ietf.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 11:55 AM
To: int-area@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org
Cc: herbie.robinson@stratus.com; touch@strayalpha.com; Templin (US), Fred L \
<Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
Subject: Re: [Int-area] Re: I-D Action: draft-templin-intarea-ipid-ext-00.txt
[Resending from Moderators account]
Hi all
This draft (draft-templin-intarea-ipid-ext-00) is being discussed across three \
different lists - intarea, ipv6 and the IETF list. As the latter list is for general \
topics only [1], I am removing it from the thread. Please continue to discuss on the \
intarea list, and if appropriate ipv6. A simple 'reply all' should now achieve this.
Thanks,
Chris Box on behalf of the Moderators team for ietf@ietf.org<mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
[1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9245.html
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From: Robinson, Herbie \
<Herbie.Robinson=40stratus.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40stratus.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 18:55
Subject: Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: \
draft-templin-intarea-ipid-ext-00.txt
To: touch@strayalpha.com<mailto:touch@strayalpha.com> \
<touch@strayalpha.com<mailto:touch@strayalpha.com>>, Templin (US), Fred L \
<Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com<mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>>
Cc: IETF intarea WG <int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org>>, IPv6 List \
<ipv6@ietf.org<mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>>, ietf <IETF@ietf.org<mailto:IETF@ietf.org>>
I would agree it must not be there when DF is 1. When DF is zero, there is always \
the possibility that a forwarding router will fragment the packet. From a practical \
standpoint, one wants the originator of the packet to provide the option whenever \
sending to a different subnet.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Understood and thank you, Chris; \
we can limit correspondences to the intarea and ipv6 lists. The<o:p></o:p></span></p> \
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">draft defines options for both \
IPv4 and IPv6, so both lists seem appropriate.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I received the comment from Herbie \
Robinson but did not receive a copy of the comment from<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Joe Touch; could be list email \
exploders acting up again…<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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style="font-size:11.0pt"> Moderators <moderators@ietf.org> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 29, 2023 11:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> int-area@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> herbie.robinson@stratus.com; touch@strayalpha.com; Templin (US), Fred L \
<Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Int-area] Re: I-D Action: \
draft-templin-intarea-ipid-ext-00.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">This \
draft (draft-templin-intarea-ipid-ext-00) is being discussed across three different \
lists - intarea, ipv6 and the IETF list. As the latter list is for general topics \
only [1], I am removing it from the thread. Please continue to discuss on the intarea \
list, and if appropriate ipv6. A simple 'reply all' should now achieve \
this.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Chris \
Box on behalf of the Moderators team for <a href="mailto:ietf@ietf.org" \
target="_blank"><span \
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href="https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9245.html" target="_blank"><span \
style="color:#1155CC">https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9245.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">From: \
<strong> <span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Robinson, \
Herbie</span></strong> <Herbie.Robinson=<a \
href="mailto:40stratus.com@dmarc.ietf.org">40stratus.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>><br>
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 18:55<br>
Subject: Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: \
draft-templin-intarea-ipid-ext-00.txt<br>
To: <a href="mailto:touch@strayalpha.com">touch@strayalpha.com</a> <<a \
href="mailto:touch@strayalpha.com">touch@strayalpha.com</a>>, Templin (US), Fred L \
<<a \
href="mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com">Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com</a>><br>
Cc: IETF intarea WG <<a href="mailto:int-area@ietf.org">int-area@ietf.org</a>>, \
IPv6 List <<a href="mailto:ipv6@ietf.org">ipv6@ietf.org</a>>, ietf <<a \
href="mailto:IETF@ietf.org">IETF@ietf.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I would \
agree it must not be there when DF is 1. When DF is zero, there is always the \
possibility that a forwarding router will fragment the packet. From a \
practical standpoint, one wants the originator of the packet to provide the \
option whenever sending to a different subnet. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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