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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.txt
From: Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter () gmail ! com>
Date: 2022-02-09 9:21:45
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Hi Ted,
That makes sense. Maybe we should wait a few days for reactions from 6man.
Regards,
Brian Carpenter
(via tiny screen & keyboard)
On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, 21:19 Ted Hardie, <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Given the substantive change and the additional update to the IRI syntax,
> may I suggest you bring the updated draft to DISPATCH, so that the folks
> more on the URI side of the house are aware of the changes? There also
> might be a dispatch action to carry additional discussion to one of the
> more ART-centric groups.
>
> regards,
>
> Ted Hardie
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 8:30 PM Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The authors of this draft did, as previously mentioned, open discussion
>> with various people in the browser community, but we did not find much
>> enthusiasm for implementation. Until there is a great increase in demand
>> for link-locals to be supported by browsers, the necessary work seems
>> unlikely to be done.
>>
>> However, we believe that this demand will eventually arise and therefore
>> it's important that the relevant URI syntax is well-defined. Therefore,
>> we've updated the draft. Apart from editorial improvements, there is a
>> significant change in this version. Following the discussions a few months
>> ago, and after I spent some time looking into the URI parsers in wget and
>> Firefox (and a brief look at curl), we propose to drop the "%25" encoding
>> of "%". The ABNF in this version, originally suggested by Andrew Cady,
>> reflects that proposal. There is extra explanation in the text.
>>
>> The other signficant change is that, as Martin Dürst pointed out, we
>> also
>> need to formally update the IRI syntax. That was an omission in RFC6874.
>>
>> It may be time to consider WG adoption of this draft.
>>
>> Regards
>> Brian & co-authors
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.txt
>> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 12:06:42 -0800
>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>
>>
>> Title : Representing IPv6 Zone Identifiers in Address
>> Literals and Uniform Resource Identifiers
>> Authors : Brian Carpenter
>> Stuart Cheshire
>> Robert M. Hinden
>> Filename : draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.txt
>> Pages : 11
>> Date : 2022-02-08
>>
>> Abstract:
>> This document describes how the zone identifier of an IPv6 scoped
>> address, defined as <zone_id> in the IPv6 Scoped Address Architecture
>> (RFC 4007), can be represented in a literal IPv6 address and in a
>> Uniform Resource Identifier that includes such a literal address. It
>> updates the URI Generic Syntax and Internationalized Resource
>> Identifier specifications (RFC 3986, RFC 3987) accordingly, and
>> obsoletes RFC 6874.
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis/
>>
>> There is also an HTML version available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.html
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org:
>> :internet-drafts
>>
>>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Ted,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That makes sense. \
Maybe we should wait a few days for reactions from 6man.<br><br><div \
data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Regards,<br> Brian Carpenter<br> \
(via tiny screen & keyboard)</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 9 Feb 2022, 21:19 Ted Hardie, <<a \
href="mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com">ted.ietf@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div \
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Hi Brian,</div><div \
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-size:large">Given the substantive change and the additional update to the \
IRI syntax, may I suggest you bring the updated draft to DISPATCH, so that the folks \
more on the URI side of the house are aware of the changes? There also might be a \
dispatch action to carry additional discussion to one of the more ART-centric \
groups.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div \
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">regards,</div><div \
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-size:large">Ted Hardie<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 8:30 PM Brian E Carpenter <<a \
href="mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br> <br>
The authors of this draft did, as previously mentioned, open discussion<br>
with various people in the browser community, but we did not find much<br>
enthusiasm for implementation. Until there is a great increase in demand<br>
for link-locals to be supported by browsers, the necessary work seems<br>
unlikely to be done.<br>
<br>
However, we believe that this demand will eventually arise and therefore<br>
it's important that the relevant URI syntax is well-defined. Therefore,<br>
we've updated the draft. Apart from editorial improvements, there is a<br>
significant change in this version. Following the discussions a few months<br>
ago, and after I spent some time looking into the URI parsers in wget and<br>
Firefox (and a brief look at curl), we propose to drop the "%25" \
encoding<br> of "%". The ABNF in this version, originally suggested by \
Andrew Cady,<br> reflects that proposal. There is extra explanation in the text.<br>
<br>
The other signficant change is that, as Martin Dürst pointed out, we <br>
also<br>
need to formally update the IRI syntax. That was an omission in RFC6874.<br>
<br>
It may be time to consider WG adoption of this draft.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Brian & co-authors<br>
<br>
<br>
-------- Forwarded Message --------<br>
Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.txt<br>
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 12:06:42 -0800<br>
From: <a href="mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a><br>
Reply-To: <a href="mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">i-d-announce@ietf.org</a><br> <br>
<br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.<br>
<br>
<br>
Title : Representing IPv6 Zone Identifiers in Address \
Literals and Uniform Resource Identifiers<br> Authors : Brian \
Carpenter<br> Stuart Cheshire<br>
Robert M. Hinden<br>
Filename : draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.txt<br>
Pages : 11<br>
Date : 2022-02-08<br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
This document describes how the zone identifier of an IPv6 scoped<br>
address, defined as <zone_id> in the IPv6 Scoped Address Architecture<br>
(RFC 4007), can be represented in a literal IPv6 address and in a<br>
Uniform Resource Identifier that includes such a literal address. It<br>
updates the URI Generic Syntax and Internationalized Resource<br>
Identifier specifications (RFC 3986, RFC 3987) accordingly, and<br>
obsoletes RFC 6874.<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis/" \
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis/</a><br>
<br>
There is also an HTML version available at:<br>
<a href="https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.html" \
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.html</a><br>
<br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br>
<a href="https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03" \
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03</a><br>
<br>
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