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From:       Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net () dmarc ! ietf ! org>
Date:       2019-09-20 17:33:02
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Robert,

Even then, the core SP router may ignore the PSSI.

Recall that the first two bits of the PSSI option are 00. This means that i=
f the processing node doesn=92t recognize the PSSI, or is configured to ign=
ore the PSSI, it will simple skip over the PSSI.

In most cases, core SP routers will be configured to ignore the PSSI.

                                                                           =
  Ron

From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:22 PM
To: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
Cc: Dirk Steinberg <dirk@lapishills.com>; Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>=
; Darren Dukes (ddukes) <ddukes@cisco.com>; xiechf@chinatelecom.cn; SPRING =
WG <spring@ietf.org>; 6man <6man@ietf.org>; Rob Shakir <robjs@google.com>; =
Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [spring] =93SRV6+=94 complexity in forwarding

Hi Ron,

No one is questioning that. If packet's destination is not a local address =
of a router all options can be ignored.

Fun however starts when destination address in the packet *is* a local addr=
ess on the router ie. the router is acting as Segment Endpoint.

Thx,
R.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:09 PM Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net<mailto:rbon=
ica@juniper.net>> wrote:
Likewise, SP core routers would ignore the PSSI and wouldn=92t even see the=
 PPSI.

                                                      Ron


From: Dirk Steinberg <dirk@lapishills.com<mailto:dirk@lapishills.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 7:40 PM
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com<mailto:tom@herbertland.com>>
Cc: Darren Dukes (ddukes) <ddukes@cisco.com<mailto:ddukes@cisco.com>>; xiec=
hf@chinatelecom.cn<mailto:xiechf@chinatelecom.cn>; SPRING WG <spring@ietf.o=
rg<mailto:spring@ietf.org>>; 6man <6man@ietf.org<mailto:6man@ietf.org>>; Ro=
bert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net<mailto:robert@raszuk.net>>; Ron Bonica <rbon=
ica@juniper.net<mailto:rbonica@juniper.net>>; Rob Shakir <robjs@google.com<=
mailto:robjs@google.com>>; Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com<mailto:tsaad.net=
@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [spring] =93SRV6+=94 complexity in forwarding

SRv6 does not require TLV processing for normal forwarding (use case: SP co=
re).

- Dirk



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<p class="MsoNormal">Robert,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Even then, the core SP router may ignore the \
PSSI.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Recall that the first two bits of the PSSI option are 00. This \
means that if the processing node doesn’t recognize the PSSI, or is configured to \
ignore the PSSI, it will simple skip over the PSSI.<o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">In most cases, core SP \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Robert Raszuk &lt;robert@raszuk.net&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 20, 2019 1:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ron Bonica &lt;rbonica@juniper.net&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dirk Steinberg &lt;dirk@lapishills.com&gt;; Tom Herbert \
&lt;tom@herbertland.com&gt;; Darren Dukes (ddukes) &lt;ddukes@cisco.com&gt;; \
xiechf@chinatelecom.cn; SPRING WG &lt;spring@ietf.org&gt;; 6man \
&lt;6man@ietf.org&gt;; Rob Shakir &lt;robjs@google.com&gt;; Tarek Saad \
&lt;tsaad.net@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [spring] “SRV6&#43;” complexity \
in forwarding<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ron,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No one is questioning that. If packet's destination is not a \
local address of a router all options can be ignored.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fun however starts when destination address in the packet *is* a \
local address on the router ie. the router is acting as Segment \
Endpoint.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thx,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">R.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:09 PM Ron Bonica &lt;<a \
href="mailto:rbonica@juniper.net">rbonica@juniper.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> \
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<p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Likewise, SP core routers \
would ignore the PSSI and wouldn’t even see the PPSI.<o:p></o:p></p> <p \
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Dirk \
Steinberg &lt;<a href="mailto:dirk@lapishills.com" \
target="_blank">dirk@lapishills.com</a>&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 7:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tom Herbert &lt;<a href="mailto:tom@herbertland.com" \
target="_blank">tom@herbertland.com</a>&gt;<br> <b>Cc:</b> Darren Dukes (ddukes) \
&lt;<a href="mailto:ddukes@cisco.com" target="_blank">ddukes@cisco.com</a>&gt;; <a \
href="mailto:xiechf@chinatelecom.cn" target="_blank">xiechf@chinatelecom.cn</a>; \
SPRING WG &lt;<a href="mailto:spring@ietf.org" \
target="_blank">spring@ietf.org</a>&gt;; 6man &lt;<a href="mailto:6man@ietf.org" \
target="_blank">6man@ietf.org</a>&gt;; Robert Raszuk &lt;<a \
href="mailto:robert@raszuk.net" target="_blank">robert@raszuk.net</a>&gt;;  Ron \
Bonica &lt;<a href="mailto:rbonica@juniper.net" \
target="_blank">rbonica@juniper.net</a>&gt;; Rob Shakir &lt;<a \
href="mailto:robjs@google.com" target="_blank">robjs@google.com</a>&gt;; Tarek Saad \
&lt;<a href="mailto:tsaad.net@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">tsaad.net@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [spring] \
“SRV6&#43;” complexity in forwarding<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> \
<div> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">SRv6 does not require TLV \
processing for normal forwarding (use case: SP core).<o:p></o:p></p> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> \
</div> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">- \
Dirk<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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