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List:       inet-access
Subject:    RE: Cache Filling
From:       "Brian Johnson" <brianj () nvc ! net>
Date:       2002-07-26 19:22:04
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Do Caching Appliances still have issues with frontpage and transparent
caching (WCCP)? We had problems with our cacheflow box and frontpage, so
we took down the cache.

Anyone know if this is still an issue?

Brian J.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-list@inet-access.net 
> [mailto:owner-list@inet-access.net] On Behalf Of Eric Stern
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:36 PM
> To: list@inet-access.net
> Subject: Re: Cache Filling
> 
> 
> > But if you're feeling like you could do something better 
> with 25% of your
> > bandwidth? And you're an ISP? A cache is just going to piss 
> off 2-5% of
> > your users.
> 
> No, actually I'm a cache vendor. But I used to be an ISP. In fact, my 
> first exposure to caching was when another local ISP installed one. 
> (This is back in, like, 1995). My first thought was, "haha, 
> they suck, 
> they don't have enough bandwidth so they had to install this cache 
> thing". But then, after thinking about it for a while I realized just 
> how much sense a cache makes. ("Why is microsoft.com being downloaded 
> over and over across our pipe when we could just cache it here?") It 
> made so much sense that I quit the ISP business and developed 
> a caching 
> product.
> 
> All I know is, any customers of ours that has installed a cache has 
> never gone back to being without one. They may not still be using OUR 
> product, but they have a cache of some form. I've had several 
> customers 
> tell me that if their cache is offline for any period of 
> time, clients 
> call them and complain that the Internet is "slow today".
> 
> Piss of 2-5% of the users? Not hardly. Years ago there were issues 
> because transparent caches were new and many web sites were braindead 
> (not marking uncachable data as uncachable..that was smart). Today, 
> caches are so widely deployed that everything works smoothly. In the 
> last year or so, I only remember one customer with one client who was 
> having trouble with one site. (They were using IP-based 
> authentication, 
> which is silly for a public web site. Anyways, they just 
> configured that 
> one site to bypass the cache and all was well.)
> 
> It doesn't sound like I can change your mind. Thats fine. But to me, 
> caching just makes sense. It makes the network more 
> effecient, and that 
> can't be bad.
> 
> -- 
> Eric Stern - Senior Product Developer - LogiSense Corp. - 
> (519) 249-0508
> http://www.logisense.com
> 
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