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List:       inet-access
Subject:    RE: Stupid hardware problem
From:       "Scott Raymond" <scott () link-net ! com>
Date:       2002-05-30 0:16:21
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Built-in VGA is difficult to find since there isn't much of a variety of
dual Athlon boards out there.  You might consider the Asus MP board:

http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7m266-d/overview.htm

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Scott
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Scott Raymond
LinkAmerica Communications
http://soundamerica.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-list@inet-access.net 
> [mailto:owner-list@inet-access.net] On Behalf Of up@3.am
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:09 PM
> To: list@inet-access.net
> Subject: RE: Stupid hardware problem
> 
> 
> 
> Following up on my own post:
> 
> I tried pulling one of the CPU's (thus supposedly voiding the 
> warranty), which would hopefully de-load the PS somewhat, but 
> the same problem persists.  If it's still a power issue, I'd 
> prefer to switch MB's than give up PS redundancy...the ONLY 
> server component to fail on me in the past few years on a 
> server I built was a PS.
> 
> ...so let me switch gears here:  recommendations for a fairly 
> modern server motherboard that will play nice with 300W?  
> Requirements:
> 
> on-board LAN
> on-board VGA would be really nice
> FSB of at least 133Mhz (266 would be nice)
> 64 bit PCI
> Dual CPU highly desireable
> console redirection to the serial port would be nice.
> 
> The Tiger had everything above except the VGA.  I'd been using Intel
> L440GX+'s with no real problems, but the slow FSB and CPUs 
> don't excite
> me.
> 
> Thanks for all the responses!
> 
> On Wed, 29 May 2002 up@3.am wrote:
> 
> > 
> > http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigermpx.html
> > 
> > near the bottom (pasted):
> > 
> > Note:
> > The Tiger MPX is designed to accept the widest variety of ATX power 
> > supplies ATX2.01 / 2.03 and ATX12V, The supply must have a minimum 
> > output of 300 watts.
> > 
> > This is a ~$500 hot-swappable EMACS (no relation to the 
> text editor, I 
> > presume).  The link from that AMD website for EMACS is 
> broken, and I 
> > didn't see anything about this motherboard on their site yet...
> > 
> > On Wed, 29 May 2002, Liam Randall wrote:
> > 
> > > Where did you see the recommendation for a 300W power supply?
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: up@3.am [mailto:up@3.am]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:25 PM
> > > To: list@inet-access.net
> > > Subject: Re: Stupid hardware problem
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think this, unfortunately, might be it.  I tried setting 
> > > 100Mbps/Full Duplex on the switch and card to no 
> avail....it's got 
> > > to be either the recommended 300w isn't sufficient, or the 3com 
> > > chipset problem.  Either way, I'm rapidly becoming a 
> non-fan of Tyan 
> > > and AMD hardware...grrr  Tyan will NOT offer any kind of live 
> > > support, and their site offers nothing on this or onboard LAN 
> > > issues...
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 29 May 2002, Chris Adams wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Once upon a time, Herb Peyerl <hpeyerl@beer.org> said:
> > > > > IMO, you don't have enough stuff in there to tax a 
> 300W supply.   I think
> > > > > you'd be seeing additional weirdness if it were a supply 
> > > > > problem.
> > > > 
> > > > You can't tell that from what was posted.  A 300W power 
> supply is 
> > > > rated to put out a certain amount of 12V, a certain 
> amount of 5V, 
> > > > a certain amount of 3V, etc., and all those ratings add up to 
> > > > 300W.  You can't expect to load up on stuff that all pulls from 
> > > > the 5V line for example.
> > > > 
> > > > It is possible that the "core" of the motherboard is 
> running from 
> > > > the 5V line and the NIC from the 3V line, which could cause 
> > > > problems if something else was also loading down the 3V line of 
> > > > the power supply.
> > > > 
> > > > That's why Athlons require 350-400W minimum power 
> supplies; they 
> > > > don't actually take 300W, but the power supply has to 
> have a high 
> > > > output on the 3V line IIRC.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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