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List:       incubator-general
Subject:    Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues
From:       Ross Gardler <ross () gardler ! me>
Date:       2019-03-31 18:15:43
Message-ID: BYAPR13MB258331D2B8FAF05A1ECD0A2EC5540 () BYAPR13MB2583 ! namprd13 ! prod ! outlook ! com
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"What is important is tat it has been addressed and the podling is fixing the issue" \
- big +1000

Thank you to everyone for doing the right thing here. Including Justin for agreeing \
to change his vote - I think that was the right thing to do even though, on this \
occasion, he could have cited my point #1 (if VP Legal says it's a blocker then it's \
a blocker). 

Ross

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From: Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:54 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues

Hi,

> For the record, no. No. It was never simply called theft. These files were
> part of the donation received from Oracle. We did not add these files in
> any way in Apache and simply received them as part of the donation. We have
> now removed them, so that this kind of stupid accusation can cease and
> since we didn’t care about them at all in the first place.

Part of all projects path to graduation is checking IP provenance, please don’t take \
that that you did the theft but perhaps someone did it before you did, a poor analogy \
is "receiving stolen goods". Stuff like this is often an accidental and \
unintentional, some internal developer copies something to use in a test that they \
think will never be public. Until that is it becomes open source. I have seen far \
more numerous and far more serious infringements of copyright in other codebases \
donated by other large companies. What is important is tat it has been addressed and \
the podling is fixing the issue

It could be far worse, for instance [1] (and they also have a script for hamlet they \
want to talk to you about).

Thanks,
Justin

1.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute
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