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Subject:    [Ilugc] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Developers wanted - OSMdata: a Wikidata-like editor for OpenStreetMap
From:       Shrinivasan T <tshrinivasan () gmail ! com>
Date:       2014-09-28 2:57:10
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From: Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:45:05 +0200
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Developers wanted - OSMdata: a Wikidata-like
editor for OpenStreetMap
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>

Hello,

I am forwarding this email to this list because I think this is a
place where I may be able to find somebody interested with the
required skills, sorry if this is not the case and/or this is not the
right place.

I would like to hear your fefedback (but please consider to use the
discussion page on meta for that).

Thanks,

Cristian
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From: Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian@gmail.com>
Date: 2014-09-12 11:41 GMT+02:00
Subject: OSMdata: a Wikidata-like editor for OpenStreetMap
To: OSM <talk@openstreetmap.org>


Hi all

The (long) discussion about importing Wikidata tags in OSM has
prompted this idea into my mind:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMdata

I have also describe here in the IdeaLab on meta-wiki:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/OSMdata:_a_Wikidata-like_editor_for_OpenStreetMap

Here's a quick summary:

== What ==
* using a MediaWiki + Wikibase - let's call it OSMdata[*] - install to
host an item about every single object in OSM (following this schema
Nxxx for nodes, Wxxx for ways, Rxxx for relations).
* claims in a OSMdata page about an item map exactly to key, values
pairs for the same object in OSM.
* OSMdata is synchronized and kept up-to-date with the OSM database (read)
* users can login in OSMdata with their OSM account and contribute,
adding new claims this are saved back automatically in the OSM
database (write)

== Rationale ==
* it seems awesome (!)
* the OSM community gains a new editor for OpenStreetMap, an editor which
use a well known interface and which can get all the benefits of
MediaWiki+Wikibase software development
* Wikibase is tested at 60x its current scale
* Wikibase is used in another big project

Let me stress again that I see OSMdata as being an editor, not a
repository for OSM, in fact I image in it to be a specialized editor
to be used for editing tags.
In my view the idea is to provide a well known interface to edit OSM
(both manually and automatically with bots, using the same bot
frameworks already available for editing Wikidata).

I have described this idea in the talk-it malling list (in Italian)
and a (at least conceptual) similarity has been pointed out towards
the textual editor Level0[2].

I would like to know your opinion, and I would also like to set up
some prototype with a small subset of the data. I tried to set up this
myself but, unfortunately, I am blocked on the first obstacle, i.e.:
how can I tell Wikibase to let me create items with names Nxxx, Wxxx
and Rxxx instead of Qxxx? I do not know enough PHP (nor MediaWiki or
Wikibase) to do this myself. Any help in this direction would be much
appreciated.

Ciao,

Cristian

[*] any reference to Wikidata is purely intentional
[1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2014-September/044540.html

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