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From: "Gabriele Bulfon" <gbulfon () sonicle ! com>
Date: 2015-09-23 21:05:50
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I had some more deep experimentation with the guys at CloudSigma and their kvm \
infrastructure. They found that leaving the machine running from 15mins to 2hrs may \
lead to the installer to start at some point. Then they installed one, and delivered \
the installed disk to my VM, so I could boot and see. What happens is the same: it \
starts grub, then you get the kernel banner, and nothing more. I tried running boot \
with -v , found myslef with the black screen after some minutes, showing a dump of \
the registers, ending with the size of the memory, nothing more after...
Any idea where I can find the issue? What may be hanging the VM? Looks like it's \
actually just "thinking" for a lot of time, but you can't know how much time...
Gabriele
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Peter Tribble
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Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Gabriele Bulfon
gbulfon@sonicle.com
wrote:
Thanks, I found CloudSigma, Switzerland, seems a good option.
They opened a trial account for me, but I had problem booting the CD.
First time it worked, but I had no virtio support, so I had to stop and restart with \
HD in ide mode. No way to run it anymore, in any way, not even starting from scratch \
in virtio mode. Is there any particular option I must let them know to allow kvm run \
illumos guests? I've only successfully installed in IDE mode, the virtio mode seems \
to upset the live boot. (I think it's having trouble in the device discovery phase \
when it's trying to find the device where solaris.zlib lives, I need to find time to \
go back and look at this in more detail.) But my experience with Bytemark is that \
apart from that it just worked.
Gabriele
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Peter Tribble
peter.tribble@gmail.com
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discuss@lists.illumos.org
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22 settembre 2015 11.19.46 CEST
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Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Gabriele Bulfon
gbulfon@sonicle.com
wrote:
Hi,
looks like impossible to find a hosting provider to run an illumos distro of my own \
on their virtualization infrastructure. Everybody wants you to run their windows or \
linux machines. I need some virtualized XStreamOS machines running around, but I \
can't find one allowing me to use my own iso install. Why?
Do you have any durable solution to this (a part from housing your own hardware, \
something we already do...)? There are a few. I've run both OmniOS and Tribblix on \
Bytemark https://www.bytemark.co.uk/
Specifically the page
https://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/bigv/
and their support is really good too. (They love people who run "unusual" things.
When running Tribblix I found a bug in their DHCP implementation and they just
got straight back to me and fixed it, and were delighted I had found it.)
There are a number of other companies set up the same way, exposing raw
qemu/KVM, which I've heard good things about but haven't tried personally. Eg.
Vultr
https://www.vultr.com/features/
If you could create an XStreamOS dataset for SmartOS, then you could
use presumably Joyent or another SDC provider such as
vrocket.io
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<html><html><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12;"><div id="wt-mailcard">I \
had some more deep experimentation with the guys at CloudSigma and their kvm \
infrastructure.</div><div id="wt-mailcard"><br /></div><div id="wt-mailcard">They \
found that leaving the machine running from 15mins to 2hrs may lead to the installer \
to start at some point.</div><div id="wt-mailcard">Then they installed one, and \
delivered the installed disk to my VM, so I could boot and see.</div><div \
id="wt-mailcard"><br /></div><div id="wt-mailcard">What happens is the same: it \
starts grub, then you get the kernel banner, and nothing more.</div><div \
id="wt-mailcard"><br /></div><div id="wt-mailcard">I tried running boot with -v , \
found myslef with the black screen after some minutes, showing a dump of the \
registers,</div><div id="wt-mailcard">ending with the size of the memory, nothing \
more after...</div><div id="wt-mailcard"><br /></div><div id="wt-mailcard">Any idea \
where I can find the issue? What may be hanging the VM? Looks like it's actually \
just "thinking" for a lot of time,</div><div id="wt-mailcard">but you \
can't know how much time...<br /><br />Gabriele</div><div id="wt-mailcard"><br \
/></div><br /><hr /><br /><br /><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" \
size="2"><b>Da:</b> Peter Tribble <peter.tribble@gmail.com><br /><b>A:</b> \
discuss <discuss@lists.illumos.org> <br /><b>Data:</b> 22 settembre 2015 \
16.26.57 CEST<br /><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings<br \
/></font><br /><br /><blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: \
5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><div dir="ltr"><br /><div class="gmail_extra"><br /><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Gabriele Bulfon <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gbulfon@sonicle.com" \
target="_blank">gbulfon@sonicle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12"><div>Thanks, I \
found CloudSigma, Switzerland, seems a good option.</div><div>They opened a trial \
account for me, but I had problem booting the CD.</div><div>First time it worked, but \
I had no virtio support, so I had to stop and restart with HD in ide \
mode.</div><div>No way to run it anymore, in any way, not even starting from scratch \
in virtio mode.</div><div><br /></div><div>Is there any particular option I must let \
them know to allow kvm run illumos guests?</div></div></blockquote><div><br \
/>I've only successfully installed in IDE mode, the virtio mode seems to upset \
the<br /></div><div>live boot. (I think it's having trouble in the device \
discovery phase when it's trying<br />to find the device where solaris.zlib \
lives, I need to find time to go back and look<br />at this in more detail.) But my \
experience with Bytemark is that apart from that it<br />just worked.<br \
/></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div \
style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12"><div>Gabriele</div><br /><hr /><br /><br \
/><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b> Peter Tribble <<a \
href="mailto:peter.tribble@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">peter.tribble@gmail.com</a>><br /><b>A:</b> discuss <<a \
href="mailto:discuss@lists.illumos.org" \
target="_blank">discuss@lists.illumos.org</a>> <br /><b>Data:</b> 22 settembre \
2015 11.19.46 CEST<br /><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [discuss] illumos hosting offerings<br \
/></font><div><div class="h5"><br /><br /><blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#000080 2px \
solid;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;PADDING-LEFT:5px"><div dir="ltr"><br /><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, \
Gabriele Bulfon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gbulfon@sonicle.com" \
target="_blank">gbulfon@sonicle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div \
style="font-family:Verdana"><div>Hi,</div><div><br /></div><div>looks like impossible \
to find a hosting provider to run an illumos distro of my own on their virtualization \
infrastructure.</div><div>Everybody wants you to run their windows or linux \
machines.</div><div>I need some virtualized XStreamOS machines running around, but I \
can't find one allowing me to use my own iso install.</div><div><br \
/></div><div>Why?</div><div>Do you have any durable solution to this (a part from \
housing your own hardware, something we already \
do...)?</div></div></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>There are a few. I've run \
both OmniOS and Tribblix on Bytemark<br /><br /><a href="https://www.bytemark.co.uk/" \
target="_blank">https://www.bytemark.co.uk/</a><br /><br /></div><div>Specifically \
the page<br /><br /><a href="https://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/bigv/" \
target="_blank">https://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/bigv/</a><br /><br \
/></div><div>and their support is really good too. (They love people who run \
"unusual" things.<br />When running Tribblix I found a bug in their DHCP \
implementation and they just<br />got straight back to me and fixed it, and were \
delighted I had found it.)<br /><br /></div><div>There are a number of other \
companies set up the same way, exposing raw<br />qemu/KVM, which I've heard good \
things about but haven't tried personally. Eg.<br /><br /></div><div>Vultr<br \
/><br /></div><div><a href="https://www.vultr.com/features/" \
target="_blank">https://www.vultr.com/features/</a><br /><br /></div><div>If you \
could create an XStreamOS dataset for SmartOS, then you could<br /></div><div>use \
presumably Joyent or another SDC provider such as <a href="http://vrocket.io" \
target="_blank">vrocket.io</a><br /><br /></div><div><br /></div></div>-- <br \
/><div>-Peter Tribble<br /><a href="http://www.petertribble.co.uk/" \
target="_blank">http://www.petertribble.co.uk/</a> - <a \
href="http://ptribble.blogspot.com/" \
target="_blank">http://ptribble.blogspot.com/</a></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br \
/><br clear="all" /><br />-- <br /><div class="gmail_signature">-Peter Tribble<br \
/><a href="http://www.petertribble.co.uk/" \
target="_blank">http://www.petertribble.co.uk/</a> - <a \
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