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Subject:    Re: [developer] ways to hyper-v
From:       "Alexander Pyhalov via illumos-developer" <developer () lists ! illumos ! org>
Date:       2018-07-31 13:10:21
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Hi.

Looking at our zoo of hypervisors, I've started asking question, if I can m=
ove illumos VMs to Hyper-V. So wanted to ask, what is the current state of =
Hyper-V support? Do I understand correctly that Hyper-V drivers developed b=
y Delphix still are not open sourced ? If they are, are there any plans on =
integrating them to illumos-gate?

Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department

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=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [developer] ways to hyper-v

Yeah, it's only rpool that is affected. We've not seen any impact since mos=
t of the I/O goes to our data devices which live in another pool and are vi=
rtualized.

- George

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:13 AM Gabriele Bulfon <gbulfon@sonicle.com<mailto=
:gbulfon@sonicle.com>> wrote:
I see.
You mean that the rpool won't be that efficient?
That may not be a problem once the system is up and running and all daemons=
 are running off another zpool.
What do you think?


Gabriele

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Da: George Wilson <george.wilson@delphix.com<mailto:george.wilson@delphix.c=
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A: illumos-developer <developer@lists.illumos.org<mailto:developer@lists.il=
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Cc: Dan McDonald <danmcd@joyent.com<mailto:danmcd@joyent.com>>
Data: 6 luglio 2017 14.59.28 CEST

Oggetto: Re: [developer] ways to hyper-v


Our intent is to release the agent. Keep in mind that we only support GEN1 =
VMs and still require the emulated device for our boot device. We have virt=
ualized all other storage devices, networking, and all of the utility drive=
rs that hyper-v requires. Current features that are not yet implemented -- =
virtualized keyboard, PCIe passthrough, virtualized boot device, GEN2 suppo=
rt, and SR-IOV. The lack of these features won't greatly impact anybody wan=
ting to run in Azure but may have a greater impact for local hyper-v implem=
entations.

Thanks,
George

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:50 AM Gabriele Bulfon <gbulfon@sonicle.com<mailto:=
gbulfon@sonicle.com>> wrote:
Thanks a lot Sebastien for the clarification.
I really hope you will share the agent too, many people are moving over hyp=
er-v because of its lower costs, and that would cut illumos out of that sce=
ne.

Thanks again,

Gabriele

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Da: Sebastien Roy <sebastien.roy@delphix.com<mailto:sebastien.roy@delphix.c=
om>>
A: illumos-developer <developer@lists.illumos.org<mailto:developer@lists.il=
lumos.org>>
Cc: Dan McDonald <danmcd@joyent.com<mailto:danmcd@joyent.com>>
Data: 5 luglio 2017 20.14.12 CEST

Oggetto: Re: [developer] ways to hyper-v

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Dan McDonald <danmcd@joyent.com<mailto:danm=
cd@joyent.com>> wrote:
>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:35 AM, Gabriele Bulfon <gbulfon@sonicle.com<mailto:=
gbulfon@sonicle.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Though I can't find sources for this.
>> I contacted the author and see what happens ;)
>
> Delphix open-sources concurrent to a release of their product. It's possi=
ble the current Delphix software doesn't have Hyper-V yet. Once it does, it=
 *should* be in their illumos-delphix github.

That's correct. We open source our OS bits to our github repository as
part of our product release process. The Hyper-V drivers are not in a
released Delphix product today, but will be in the near future (I'm
not at liberty to discuss specific timelines here). Note that in
addition to the core-OS drivers required to run on Hyper-V, a
user-land agent is needed to run in Microsoft Azure. We chose not to
include this agent as part of the core OS, but rather as an add-on
package that we install as part of our release build process. We could
consider open-sourcing our work there as well to enable the community.

Please reach out to George Wilson or me for further questions.

Thanks,
-Seb

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