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Subject: Re: [developer] removing sendmail from illumos-gate
From: "Garrett D'Amore" <garrett () damore ! org>
Date: 2016-06-23 15:33:02
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If I integrate it, I will maintain it. As I said, I believe having *some*
mta, ideally the most trivial one possible, inside the gate serves a couple
of specific purposes:
a) minimal appliance builds
b) POSIX conformance within the gate
I am quite possibly the only person who cares about "b". I am also quite
possibly the only person who gives a crap about POSIX conformance at all;
certainly the main distros seem to have stopped giving it even lip
service. But I believe that if we can someday achieve a solution that is
"conformant by default", we might one day be able to find a path out from
behind the Solarism's that are such a barrier to 3rd party adoption.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Alexander Pyhalov <alp@rsu.ru> wrote:
> On 06/23/16 05:41 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>
>> dma or some other alternative should not be dead code. some of us would
>> use. perhaps many of us. it would be small and minimal enough to represent
>> minimal effort to maintain. ideally id like whatever is chosen to come from
>> an active upstream. dma meets that need.
>>
>>
> The point is who is going to maintain it. In any case, getting rid of
> sendmail in the gate is a big win.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Alexander Pyhalov,
> system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department
>
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believe having *some* mta, ideally the most trivial one possible, inside the gate \
serves a couple of specific purposes:<div><br /></div><div>a) minimal appliance \
builds</div><div>b) POSIX conformance within the gate</div><div><br /></div><div>I am \
quite possibly the only person who cares about “b”. I am also quite \
possibly the only person who gives a crap about POSIX conformance at all; certainly \
the main distros seem to have stopped giving it even lip service. But I believe \
that if we can someday achieve a solution that is “conformant by \
default”, we might one day be able to find a path out from behind the \
Solarism’s that are such a barrier to 3rd party adoption.</div><div><br \
/></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 23, \
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> dma or some other alternative should not be dead code. some \
of us would use. perhaps many of us. it would be small and minimal enough to \
represent minimal effort to maintain. ideally id like whatever is chosen to come from \
an active upstream. dma meets that need.<br /><br /></blockquote><br /></span> The \
point is who is going to maintain it. In any case, getting rid of sendmail in the \
gate is a big win.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br /><br />
-- <br />
Best regards,<br />
Alexander Pyhalov,<br />
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department<br \
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