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List:       ietf-tls
Subject:    Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor(Keying	MaterialExporters for Transport Layer
From:       "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1 () ix ! netcom ! com>
Date:       2009-07-30 2:56:11
Message-ID: 4A710BCB.D1E45556 () ix ! netcom ! com
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Larry and all,

  I agree with your conclusion here Larry!  Well done!  But what
will determine what precisely will be that standard, if any, and
if not standard is determined as a result or otherwise, how will
full interoperability be accomplished?

Lawrence Rosen wrote:

> I agree completely with Richard Stallman's responses to an earlier email. I
> repeat the relevant parts of that earlier exchange below. This reflects a
> basic policy that should be adopted by IETF.
> /Larry Rosen
>
> ********************* Email from RMS:
>
> If you are claiming that one additional software patent can result in fewer
> software patent infringement lawsuits, indeed that can sometimes be true.
> But lawsuits are just the tip of the iceberg of the danger of patents.
>
> When people decide not to distribute a program, or not to implement a
> feature, because they fear they would be sued, no lawsuit occurs, but the
> patent has done harm.
>
>       In many cases,
>     patents are filed long before the technology is standardized - and, if
>     disclosed properly through the IETF process, can be weighed when
>     determining whether to adopt a standard.
>
> IETF should use this leverage to refuse to issue a standard unless the
> companies in question allow it to be freely implemented and used.
>
>       In some cases, the IETF may
>     choose to adopt a patent-encumbered standard simply because it's
>     technically superior to other options
>
> That is an example of what not to do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Richard Stallman
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:37 PM
> To: Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
> Cc: dean@av8.com; ietf-honest@lists.iadl.org; tls@ietf.org;
> Nicolas.Williams@sun.com; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor (Keying
> MaterialExporters for Transport Layer Security (TLS)) to Proposed Standard
> <snip>
>
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