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Subject:    Re: Last Call: <draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-15.txt> (IPP over HTTPS Transport Binding and 'ipps' 
From:       Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic () gmail ! com>
Date:       2014-10-31 23:15:42
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Hi Tom,

Thanks for your cogent comments once again - inline thoughts below.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, t.p. <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Looks good.
>
> Some minor thoughts
>
> s.3 " section 7 'The TLS Handshake Protocol' in [RFC5246]"
> should now refer to
> "section 7 'TLS Handshaking Protocols'   "
>

<ira> Agreed - will fix in next draft.

>
> s.4.1 "Any other transport binding for IPP would require a different URI
> scheme. "
> sounds rather like a MUST e.g. 'This URI scheme MUST only be used with
> the transport bindings specified here'
>

<ira> Agreed - will fix in next draft.

>
> s.4.2 'Note: Literal IPv4 addresses'
> sounds like good security advice but is not referenced by s.6  On the
> other hand, I cannot see a good place in s.6 in which to insert a
> reference so probably best left.
>

<ira> Good catch.  I'll think about making sure that somewhere in s.6
there's a back reference to most or all security-related requirements
or recommendations included in the registration template in s.4.

>

s.5
> "   Encoding Considerations:  See section 4.3 of RFC xxxx.
> "
> should now be section 4.5.
>

<ira> Agreed - will fix in next draft.

>
> I note that the latest RFC Editor guidelines say that they prefer TBD1,
> TBD2 etc to xxxx which seems to me very silly - I await their response
> with interest:-)
>

<ira> Yuck - well, I'll follow the RFC Editor's advice in next draft.

>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The IESG" <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
> To: "IETF-Announce" <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:30 PM
> Subject: Last Call: <draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-15.txt> (IPP over
> HTTPS Transport Binding and 'ipps' URI Scheme) to Proposed Standard
>
>
> >
> > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to
> consider
> > the following document:
> > - 'IPP over HTTPS Transport Binding and 'ipps' URI Scheme'
> >   <draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-15.txt> as Proposed Standard
> >
> > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> > final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-11-25. Exceptionally, comments may
> be
> > sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
> > beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
> >
> > Abstract
> >
> >    This document defines the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) over
> HTTPS
> >    transport binding and the corresponding 'ipps' URI scheme, that is
> >    used to designate the access to the network location of a secure
> IPP
> >    print service or a network resource managed by such a service.
> >
> >    This document defines an alternate IPP transport binding to that
> >    defined in the original IPP URL Scheme (RFC 3510), but this
> document
> >    does not update or obsolete RFC 3510.
> >
> >    This document updates RFC 2910 and RFC 2911.
> >
> > The file can be obtained via
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme/
> >
> > IESG discussion can be tracked via
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme/ballot/
> >
> > No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
>
>

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Hi Tom,<br><br>Thanks for your cogent comments once again - inline thoughts \
below.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear="all"><div><div \
class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software \
Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux \
Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working \
Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated \
Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a \
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" \
target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a \
style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" \
target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a \
href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Winter   579 Park Place   Saline, MI   \
48176   734-944-0094<br>Summer   PO Box 221   Grand Marais, MI 49839   \
906-494-2434<br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div \
style="display:inline"></div><div \
style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div>
 <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, t.p. <span \
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:daedulus@btconnect.com" \
target="_blank">daedulus@btconnect.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Looks good.<br> <br>
Some minor thoughts<br>
<br>
s.3 &quot; section 7 &#39;The TLS Handshake Protocol&#39; in [RFC5246]&quot;<br>
should now refer to<br>
&quot;section 7 &#39;TLS Handshaking Protocols&#39;     &quot;<br></blockquote><div>  \
</div><div><span style="color:rgb(102,0,204)">&lt;ira&gt; Agreed - will fix in next \
draft. </span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
s.4.1 &quot;Any other transport binding for IPP would require a different URI<br>
scheme. &quot;<br>
sounds rather like a MUST e.g. &#39;This URI scheme MUST only be used with<br>
the transport bindings specified here&#39;<br></blockquote><div><br><span \
style="color:rgb(102,0,204)">&lt;ira&gt; Agreed - will fix in next draft. \
</span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
s.4.2 &#39;Note: Literal IPv4 addresses&#39;<br>
sounds like good security advice but is not referenced by s.6   On the<br>
other hand, I cannot see a good place in s.6 in which to insert a<br>
reference so probably best left.<br></blockquote><div><br><span \
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">&lt;ira&gt; Good catch.   I&#39;ll think about making \
sure that somewhere in s.6<br>there&#39;s a back reference to most or all \
security-related requirements<br>or recommendations included in the registration \
template in s.4.</span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">  </blockquote><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> s.5<br>
&quot;     Encoding Considerations:   See section 4.3 of RFC xxxx.<br>
&quot;<br>
should now be section 4.5.<br></blockquote><div><br><span \
style="color:rgb(102,0,204)">&lt;ira&gt; Agreed - will fix in next draft. \
</span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
I note that the latest RFC Editor guidelines say that they prefer TBD1,<br>
TBD2 etc to xxxx which seems to me very silly - I await their response<br>
with interest:-)<br></blockquote><div><br><span \
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">&lt;ira&gt; Yuck - well, I&#39;ll follow the RFC \
Editor&#39;s advice in next draft. </span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
Tom Petch<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;The IESG&quot; &lt;<a \
                href="mailto:iesg-secretary@ietf.org">iesg-secretary@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
                
To: &quot;IETF-Announce&quot; &lt;<a \
                href="mailto:ietf-announce@ietf.org">ietf-announce@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
                
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:30 PM<br>
Subject: Last Call: &lt;draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-15.txt&gt; (IPP over<br>
HTTPS Transport Binding and &#39;ipps&#39; URI Scheme) to Proposed Standard<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to<br>
consider<br>
&gt; the following document:<br>
&gt; - &#39;IPP over HTTPS Transport Binding and &#39;ipps&#39; URI Scheme&#39;<br>
&gt;     &lt;draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-15.txt&gt; as Proposed Standard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits<br>
&gt; final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:ietf@ietf.org">ietf@ietf.org</a> mailing lists by 2014-11-25. \
Exceptionally, comments may<br> be<br>
&gt; sent to <a href="mailto:iesg@ietf.org">iesg@ietf.org</a> instead. In either \
case, please retain the<br> &gt; beginning of the Subject line to allow automated \
sorting.<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; Abstract<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;      This document defines the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) over<br>
HTTPS<br>
&gt;      transport binding and the corresponding &#39;ipps&#39; URI scheme, that \
is<br> &gt;      used to designate the access to the network location of a secure<br>
IPP<br>
&gt;      print service or a network resource managed by such a service.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;      This document defines an alternate IPP transport binding to that<br>
&gt;      defined in the original IPP URL Scheme (RFC 3510), but this<br>
document<br>
&gt;      does not update or obsolete RFC 3510.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;      This document updates RFC 2910 and RFC 2911.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The file can be obtained via<br>
&gt; <a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme/" \
target="_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme/</a><br>
 &gt;<br>
&gt; IESG discussion can be tracked via<br>
&gt; <a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme/ballot/" \
target="_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme/ballot/</a><br>
 &gt;<br>
&gt; No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>



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