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Subject:    Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
From:       bill manning <bmanning () isi ! edu>
Date:       2010-11-16 18:47:15
Message-ID: 7AA41E0D-F6E2-48DC-8854-D8E59CDD3353 () isi ! edu
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	another datapoint for those keeping score.  I am aware of people who register, pay
	and don't attend.   seems that IETF attendance is a value proposition.  

	is it worth it (to my organization/self) to spend the time, money, effort to engage in the
	IETF and its processes?   

	for some, the burden of recent years (the "note well", the slipping off of long-time support
	in favor of quasi-autonomous independence, the IPR constraints, the increase in fees) changed 
        the equation	and there are people who don't participate anymore.  I think the community
	is poorer as a result.

	perhaps we should take a leaf from the IoT community and insist on implanted RFID tags
	as our badges?   surely that would make it easier to track attendees and allow for a much
	finer grained billing structure?

--bill

  
On 16November2010Tuesday, at 10:01, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> 
>> Ok, so then let's ask for comp status.
>> 
>> I've been paying from my own pocket all my IETF registration and traveling
>> expenses from the last 2 years, and can't further do it, specially because
>> it seems to me that the systems is unfair if we don't have good reasons to
>> justify each case.
> 
> You make two claims without any justification: 1. The system is 
> "unfair" and 2. We don't have good reasons. Not exactly a good 
> starting point for your "application".
> 
> You are not the only person who has paid part or all his/her 
> registration and travel expenses. Welcome to the club.
> 
>> 
>> Let me know what the IAOC needs from me to justify my case. I'm happy to
>> send it publicly.
> 
> The "comp status" is given in exceptional circumstances for people who 
> really need to be present at the meeting, such as those running the 
> NOC, IESG members without corporate (or private) support etc. If you 
> fall into any of those categories, I see no reason why you could not 
> ask for support. This is at the discretion of the IETF chair in most 
> cases.
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> 
>> 
> 
> Ole
> 
> Ole J. Jacobsen 
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