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Subject:    Re: More on the Secretariat Statement of Work (SOW)
From:       "Spencer Dawkins" <spencer () mcsr-labs ! org>
Date:       2005-12-24 0:02:49
Message-ID: 11ed01c6081d$60fa7ba0$d0087c0a () china ! huawei ! com
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Bernard/All,

Ack on Bernard's note.

I know that speed isn't the only thing that matters, but if we move slowly 
enough, the other stuff that matters won't matter.

I'm remembering from previous discussions (sometime around the time of 
http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/03mar/134.htm? or 
http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/04mar/981.htm?) that the states we track in 
the ID tracker are sometimes overloaded, so it's hard to tell who has the 
token and exactly what is happening with the draft, and there are limits on 
what we've been able to do with metrics in the past.

It's definitely worth thinking about this from a metrics perspective.

Spencer


> In thinking through the Statement of Work (SoW), I think that an important
> component is to provide the IETF with sufficient information on how well
> the organization is performing.
>
> There are many metrics for that, but an important one is the time taken in
> various stages of the IETF process.
>
> Unfortunately, it is not clear to me that we are currently collecting this
> information in a form that makes it easy to analyze.  We are also not
> analyzing the data on a regular basis, using it in a systematic effort to
> improve IETF performance (or at least to prevent it from deteriorating
> further).
>
> Researchers such as Tim Simcoe of the University of Toronto have studied
> metrics of IETF performance and have come to some interesting conclusions.
> For example, it appears that time from an initial -00 to RFC publication
> varies considerably by area, as well as by designation (Information,
> Experiemntal, Proposed).  In the process of developing this research, Tim
> has also had to do significant work to adjust the data to make it suitable
> for analysis.
>
> My suggestion is that the IAOC needs to start thinking about what data
> and reports are needed to enable the IETF to measure and improve its
> performance.
>
> References
> ----------
>
> Simcoe, T., "Delays and de Jure Standards: What Caused the Slowdown in
> Internet Standards Development?", UC Berkeley Haas  School of Business,
> April 2004.
>
> Simcoe, T., "Standards Setting Committees", J.L Rotman School of
> Management, University of Toronto, Decmeber 2005.
>
> Available at: http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/IAB/simcoe/
>
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