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Subject: Re: [Hyperledger TSC] Minutes / October 18th, 2018
From: "Christopher B Ferris" <chrisfer () us ! ibm ! com>
Date: 2018-10-19 11:29:16
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> > >Cheers,<br><br>Christopher Ferris<br>IBM Distinguished Engineer, CTO Open \
> > > Technology<br>IBM Digital Business Group, Open Technologies<br>email: \
> > > chrisfer@us.ibm.com<br>twitter: @christo4ferris</font></div>
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Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" >blog: <a \
href="https://developer.ibm.com/code/author/chrisfer/">https://developer.ibm.com/code/author/chrisfer/</a><br>phone: \
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>----- Original message -----<br>From: Ry Jones \
> <rjones@linuxfoundation.org><br>To: Christopher Ferris \
> <chrisfer@us.ibm.com><br>Cc: Hart Montgomery \
> <hmontgomery@us.fujitsu.com>, bob@summerwill.net, \
> tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org, tsc@lists.hyperledger.org<br>Subject: Re: \
> [Hyperledger TSC] Minutes / October 18th, 2018<br>Date: Thu, Oct 18, 2018 5:47 \
> PM<br>
<div dir="auto" >I'll file a ticket</div>
<div><div dir="ltr" >On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 15:52 Christopher B Ferris <<a \
href="mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com" target="_blank">chrisfer@us.ibm.com</a>> \
wrote:</div> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
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style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt" ><div dir="ltr" >When \
we get Confluence, we can have a much sexier version. As to the mandatory login, \
AFAIK it isn't unless you access a non-public link. Of course, looking at the page \
with an incognito tab, I see that the filters themselves are visible only to logged \
in users (le sigh).</div> <div dir="ltr" > </div>
<div dir="ltr" >Hey Ry/Tracy, can we get the default to be PUBLIC for new \
filters?</div> <div dir="ltr" > </div>
<div dir="ltr" >I have since made everything on that page public so no login should \
be necessary. Thanks for raising this to my attention.</div> <div dir="ltr" \
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> face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" \
> >Cheers,<br><br>Christopher Ferris<br>IBM Distinguished Engineer, CTO Open \
> > Technology<br>IBM Digital Business Group, Open Technologies<br>email: <a \
> > href="mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com" rel="noreferrer" \
> > target="_blank">chrisfer@us.ibm.com</a><br>twitter: @christo4ferris</font></div>
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Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" >blog: <a \
href="https://developer.ibm.com/code/author/chrisfer/" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://developer.ibm.com/code/author/chrisfer/</a><br>phone: +1 508 \
667 0402</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> <div dir="ltr" \
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<blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left:solid #aaaaaa \
2px;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;direction:ltr;margin-right:0px" >----- Original \
message -----<br>From: "Montgomery, Hart" <<a \
href="mailto:hmontgomery@us.fujitsu.com" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">hmontgomery@us.fujitsu.com</a>><br>To: "<a \
href="mailto:bob@summerwill.net" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">bob@summerwill.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:bob@summerwill.net" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bob@summerwill.net</a>>, Todd Benzies <<a \
href="mailto:tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org</a>>, Christopher Ferris <<a \
href="mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">chrisfer@us.ibm.com</a>><br>Cc: Hyperledger List <<a \
href="mailto:tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>><br>Subject: RE: [Hyperledger TSC] \
Minutes / October 18th, 2018<br>Date: Thu, Oct 18, 2018 2:34 PM<br> \
<div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" \
>+1 to this.</span></p> <p><span \
> style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" \
> > </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" \
>I have frustrated a number of business people when they have asked about future \
> plans for Fabric and I have sent them the link to the jira. It's great for \
> technical folks, but suboptimal for the business people.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" \
> </span></p> <p><span \
> style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" \
> >Thanks,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" \
>Hart</span></p> <p><span \
> style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" \
> > </span></p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" \
>From:</span></b><span \
> style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" > <a \
> href="mailto:tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" rel="noreferrer" \
> target="_blank">tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a> [mailto:<a \
> href="mailto:tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" rel="noreferrer" \
> target="_blank">tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob \
> Summerwill<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> Todd \
> Benzies <<a href="mailto:tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org" rel="noreferrer" \
> target="_blank">tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org</a>>; Christopher Ferris <<a \
> href="mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com" rel="noreferrer" \
> target="_blank">chrisfer@us.ibm.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Hyperledger List <<a \
> href="mailto:tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" rel="noreferrer" \
> target="_blank">tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: \
> [Hyperledger TSC] Minutes / October 18th, 2018</span></p>
<p> </p>
<div><p>Chris,</p>
<div><p> </p></div>
<div><p>On the JIRA Roadmap comment on your Fabric update, my own experience has been \
that the compulsory JIRA login is a real barrier to entry.</p></div> \
<div><p> </p></div> <div><p>This will just be down to the JIRA configuration \
which the LF has set up. We had similar problems with comprehension of EIPs for \
Ethereum when we were just using GitHub issues. It you are very comfortable \
with JIRA or GitHub then you are probably fine, but many other people would like \
something a little more human.</p></div> <div><p> </p></div>
<div><p>Even just a little investment into a custom read only view onto issue \
tracking systems can be hugely impactful - to remove all barriers to engagement and \
provide a bit of "soft niceness" around our techie tools.</p></div> \
<div><p> </p></div> <div><p>See <a href="https://eips.ethereum.org" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://eips.ethereum.org</a> for a really \
lightweight view onto the same GitHub data, but which helped immensely for \
EIPs.</p></div> <div><p> </p></div>
<div><p>Maybe a custom roadmap view at <a \
href="https://fabricroadmap.hyperledger.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> \
https://fabricroadmap.hyperledger.org</a> or whatever would make a big \
difference?</p></div></div> <p> </p>
<div><div><p>On Thu., Oct. 18, 2018, 10:57 a.m. Todd Benzies, <<a \
href="mailto:tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:</p></div> <blockquote \
style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in" ><div><p \
style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><b><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Hyperledger \
Project</span></b></p> <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Technical Steering \
Committee (TSC) Meeting</span></p> <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >October 18, 2018 \
(7:00am - 8:00am PT)</span></p> <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >via Zoom</span></p> \
<p> </p> <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><b><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >TSC \
Members</span></b></p> <div><table style="border-collapse:collapse" cellspacing="0" \
cellpadding="0" border="0" > <tbody> <tr style="height:.25in" > \
<td style="border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt;height:.25in" \
valign="bottom" > <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" \
><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Arnaud Le \
> Hors</span></p> </td> <td \
> style="border:solid black 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt \
> 2.0pt;height:.25in" valign="bottom" > <p \
> style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center" align="center" ><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> >Yes</span></p> </td> </tr> \
> > <tr> <td style="border:solid black \
> > 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" valign="bottom" > \
> > <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Baohua \
> > Yang</span></p> </td> <td \
> > style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black \
> > 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" \
> > valign="bottom" > <p \
> > style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center" align="center" ><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >Yes</span></p> </td> </tr> \
> > > <tr> <td style="border:solid black \
> > > 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" valign="bottom" > \
> > > <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><span \
> > > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Binh \
> > > Nguyen</span></p> </td> <td \
> > > style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black \
> > > 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" \
> > > valign="bottom" > <p \
> > > style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center" align="center" \
> > > ><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > > > >Yes</span></p> </td> </tr> \
> > > > > <tr> <td style="border:solid black \
> > > > > 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" valign="bottom" > \
> > > > > <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><span \
> > > > > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" \
> > > > > >Christopher Ferris</span></p> </td> \
> > > > > > <td style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black \
> > > > > > 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" \
> > > > > > valign="bottom" > <p \
> > > > > > style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center" align="center" \
> > > > > > ><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > > > > > > >Yes</span></p> </td> </tr> \
> > > > > > > > <tr> <td style="border:solid black \
> > > > > > > > 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" \
> > > > > > > > valign="bottom" > <p \
> > > > > > > > style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><span \
> > > > > > > > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Dan \
> > > > > > > > Middleton</span></p> </td> \
> > > > > > > > <td style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black \
> > > > > > > > 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" \
> > > > > > > > valign="bottom" > <p \
> > > > > > > > style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center" \
> > > > > > > > align="center" ><span \
> > > > > > > > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > > > > > > > >Yes</span></p> </td> </tr> \
> > > > > > > > > <tr> <td style="border:solid black \
> > > > > > > > > 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt" \
> > > > > > > > > valign="bottom" > <p \
> > > > > > > > > style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><span \
> > > > > > > > > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" \
> > > > > > > > > >Hart Montgomery</span></p> </td> \
> > > > > > > > > > <td style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid \
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> > > > > > > > > > 2.0pt 2.0pt" valign="bottom" > <p \
> > > > > > > > > > style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center" \
> > > > > > > > > > align="center" ><span \
> > > > > > > > > > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > > > > > > > > > >Yes</span></p> </td> </tr> \
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><b><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" \
>Resources:</span></b></p> <p \
> style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
> ><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> > style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222" \
> > >Rocket.Chat: </span><span \
> > > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > > ><a href="http://chat.hyperledger.org/" rel="noreferrer" \
> > > > target="_blank">chat.hyperledger.org</a></span><span \
> > > > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222" \
> > > > > (you can use your LFID to login)</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222" \
> >Github: </span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" ><a \
> > href="http://www.github.com/hyperledger" rel="noreferrer" \
> > target="_blank">www.github.com/hyperledger</a></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol" ><span> ·<span style="font:7.0pt \
> "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Wiki: <a \
> href="https://wiki.hyperledger.org/" rel="noreferrer" \
> target="_blank">https://wiki.hyperledger.org/</a></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol" ><span> ·<span style="font:7.0pt \
> "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Public lists: \
> <a href="http://lists.hyperledger.org" rel="noreferrer" \
> target="_blank">lists.hyperledger.org</a></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol" ><span> ·<span style="font:7.0pt \
> "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Meetings: \
> <a href="http://wiki.hyperledger.org/community/calendar-public-meetings" \
> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">wiki.hyperledger.org/community/calendar-public-meetings</a></span></p>
>
<p> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><b><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Event \
Reminders</span></b></p> <p \
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >APAC \
> Hackfest -- week of March 4th (details coming soon)</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> >Schedule<a href="https://www.hyperledger.org/announcements/2018/08/29/hyperledger-announces-global-forum-schedule-keynotes" \
> > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:black" > </span>announced</a> \
> > for<a href="https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/hyperledger-global-forum-2018/" \
> > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:black" > </span>Hyperledger \
> > Global Forum</a>, December 12-15 (Basel, Switzerland)</span></p>
<p> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><b><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Supply \
Chain</span></b><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" > \
</span><a href="https://lists.hyperledger.org/g/tsc/message/1739" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank"><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" \
>proposal</span></a></p> <p \
> style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
> ><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> > style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >Dave Cecchi provided an overview of the proposal</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Are \
> there more details on generic components being built that could be more widely \
> shared? Supply chain is a very general term that encompasses many thing -- \
> what is your definition and specific set of capabilities?</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >The \
> > motivations are supply chain centric, but certainly components from this type of \
> > framework may have applicability to other market models. Typical use cases \
> > deal with logistics, track and trace, as well as multi-party distributed supply \
> > chain business enablement. Want to solve distributed supply chain \
> > problems.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Would \
> it be useful for Hyperledger to define a transaction format that is generic enough \
> to be used in a wide range of environments with similar commonalities (i.e. format \
> with sender/receiver addresses with backpointers)</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >These problems have been solved outside of blockchain -- businesses have been \
> > > transacting for a while. Looking for reusable components. As a platform, \
> > > the components all need to work together.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >What \
> code currently exists? If this was put into incubation, what would land on \
> Day 0? A lot seems to be centered around business process -- is supply chain \
> as an umbrella project the best path?</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >Some code exists, but not production ready -- this is for incubation. Code \
> > > from track and trace usage linked in proposal, as well.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >Customer, counterparty/party, product or material -- reusable components that \
> > > can be assembled into an application that would tie these primitives \
> > > together.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Why \
> wouldn't existing standards for supply chain apply?</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >Yes, the standards exists… but, why aren't they implemented and in open source \
> > > (or Hyperledger implementation) yet.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> >Compare Hyperledger Composer with the scope of this proposal?</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >Composer is a tool to help people get ramped into blockchain and do code \
> > > generation of business considerations.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >For \
> > this supply chain project, not code generation, but to still facilitate coding \
> > business level concerns in delivering an application.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >A \
> suggestion was made to add this into the proposal.</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >A \
> suggestion was made to create a non-generic name (not "supply chain")</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >A \
> suggestion was made to have some references to existing standards, and sequencing \
> expectations on deliverables</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> >Questions as to whether it is limited to this vertical or more broadly \
> > encompassing</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> >Continue discussion via chat and mailing list</span></p>
<p> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><b><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
>Quarterly project updates</span></b></p> <p \
> style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
> ><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> > style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >Victor Hu provided the Hyperledger Caliper <a \
> > > href="https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/tsc/project-updates/caliper-2018-sep" \
> > > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> update</a></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> > >What is current level of communication between Caliper and PSWG?</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black" ><span> §<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >For \
> each PSWG meeting, one rep from Caliper will be there</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Chris \
> Ferris provided the Hyperledger Fabric <a \
> href="https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/tsc/project-updates/fabric-2018-oct" \
> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> update</a></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Andi \
> Gunderson provided the Hyperledger Sawtooth <a \
> href="https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/tsc/project-updates/sawtooth-2018-oct" \
> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> update</a></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Is \
> > there a plan for testnet?</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black" ><span> §<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Loose \
> plan was to get a starter testnet going where we raise nodes in different \
> organizations, and do some basic integration testing across organizational \
> boundaries -- then, look at more security-focused use of testnet</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black" \
> ><span>o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > \
> > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Are \
> > we still looking at testnet at a Hyperledger-level?</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black" ><span> §<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >Dave \
> Huseby is pulling together thoughts and a proposal for 2019 budget \
> planning</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black" ><span> §<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >ADD \
> for TSC call next week</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> >October 25th: Hyperledger Iroha <a \
> > href="https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/tsc/project-updates/iroha-2018-oct" \
> > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> update</a></span></p>
<p> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt" ><b><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
>Quarterly WG updates</span></b></p> <p \
> style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
> ><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> > style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> > style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" >No \
> > updates this week</span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline" \
><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black" ><span> ·<span \
> style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"" > </span></span></span><span \
> style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black" \
> >October 25th: Technical WG China <a \
> > href="https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/tsc/wg-updates/technical-wg-china-2018-oct" \
> > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> update</a> and Training and Education WG <a \
> > href="https://wiki.hyperledger.org/groups/tsc/wg-updates/training-and-education-wg-2018-oct" \
> > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> update</a></span></p>
<div><p> </p></div>
<p>--</p>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p><b><span style="color:#666666" >Todd \
Benzies</span></b></p> <div><div><p><span style="color:#666666" >Sr. Director, \
Program Management & Operations</span></p></div> <div><p><span \
style="color:#666666" >The Linux Foundation<br>+1 (415) 412-0310 (m)</span></p></div> \
<div><p><span style="color:#666666" ><a href="mailto:tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org</a></span></p></div></di \
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div> \
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