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Chris, thanks for the clarification on licensing. That does sound usefully different. \
Likewise, Arnaud, thanks for those clarifications on intent. Brian further began to \
distinguish between the incubation path and labs. I think this is important.

This is a good read to see how Apache structured their labs
http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html

I haven't come across how they manage branding yet, but the labs page itself is a bit \
buried on the apache.org content. There is verbiage in there about mechanisms to \
avoid having a lab circumvent incubation process.

Regards,
Dan

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[mailto:hyperledger-tsc-bounces@lists.hyperledger.org] On Behalf Of vipin bharathan \
                via hyperledger-tsc
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 10:25
To: Brian Behlendorf <bbehlendorf@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: hyperledger-tsc <hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org>
Subject: Re: [Hyperledger Project TSC] [Proposal] Hyperledger Labs

Hello all,

I support the concept of the Labs for the following reasons:

We are an umbrella organisation to shelter developments that are Open Source dealing \
with Blockchain.

Of course the developments have to adopt some basic governance like licensing, \
scope(Blockchain related) and clean and open code development.

Labs is a great way to enforce these basic rules and not put a huge gating process \
for adoption under the HL umbrella.

This allows for true experimentation, and more viable projects to arise out of this \
environment. We should not be standing in the way of this environment; nothing should \
be done to discourage doers and volunteers.

If they want to get to incubation; they will have to go through the same process as \
others, but they will be ready having passed through the initial process and having \
worked with the Lab maintainers on an ongoing basis.

Regards,
Vipin

On Dec 10, 2017 2:05 PM, "Brian Behlendorf via hyperledger-tsc" \
<hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org<mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org>> \
wrote: That feels like a different conceptualization of this, as Labs is allowed to \
be a home for projects that aren't intended to go through the formal path to becoming \
a regular project, whereas projects in Incubation really should be. Which reminds \
me....

Brian
On December 9, 2017 1:34:49 AM PST, Donald Liu / Linux Foundation APAC via \
hyperledger-tsc <hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org<mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org>> \
wrote: How about adding one more state in Project Lifecycle, and have it called \
"Inception"?


On 9 Dec 2017, at 16:36, Duncan Johnston-Watt via hyperledger-tsc \
<hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org<mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org>> \
wrote:

+1.
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Founder & Chair, Advisory Board | Cloudsoft Corporation
+44 777 190 2653<tel:+44%207771%20902653> | @duncanjw

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 Dec 2017, at 21:48, Christopher Ferris via hyperledger-tsc \
<hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org<mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org>> \
wrote: To the question of "how is this not just github"? I think that the reasonable \
distinction is that the governance of Hyperledger Labs follows the IP requirements of \
Hyperledger (ASL2.0 and CCBY4.0) and enforcement by GitHub's DCOBOT and that they are \
also bound by our code of conduct. They also can leverage the chat and email \
resources (optionally) which brings them into the "community".

Yes, you *could* do that on GH, but for these projects we put in place maintainers \
(of the whole labs) to monitor and ensure the rules are being followed, etc.

As to who makes the decision of "appropriateness" it would be the project (the labs \
project) maintainers, yes. I suppose we could add the obvious that the maintainers \
could defer any marginal cases to the TSC.

Chris

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Bowman, Mic via hyperledger-tsc \
<hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org<mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org>> \
wrote: This looks great! Thanks for putting together the proposal!

Two questions… First, is there an expectation that a project proceed to incubation \
(or "die")? That is… do you expect projects that have active maintainers to be able \
to operate in the labs indefinitely?

Second, how do you determine "appropriateness"? Per Dan's question about "what's the \
difference between HL Labs and github?", it would probably be unreasonable for a new \
HL Labs project to use the HL Labs brand for a project that has nothing to do with \
blockchains or HL. Who makes that decision? The project maintainers?

--mic


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Subject: [Hyperledger Project TSC] [Proposal] Hyperledger Labs

At the Lisbon Hackfest, a few of us (Chris Ferris, Brian Behlendorf, Arnaud Le Hors) \
wrote a proposal for Hyperledger Labs. You can find the proposal here: \
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VbgmlIqDnUnvjxSJ5QTUBV-Qn3eA7Gduw0edjYgDXIY/edit?usp=sharing. \
We would like to receive some feedback on this proposal and discuss at an upcoming \
TSC meeting. In addition, we are looking for volunteers who wish to act as \
maintainers for the Hyperledger Labs GitHub organization.

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Community Architect, Hyperledger
The Linux Foundation
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Chris, \
thanks for the clarification on licensing. That does sound usefully different. \
Likewise, Arnaud, thanks for those clarifications on intent.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Brian \
further began to distinguish between the incubation path and labs. I think this is \
important. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This \
is a good read to see how Apache structured their labs <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a \
href="http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html">http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I \
haven't come across how they manage branding yet, but the labs page itself is a bit \
buried on the apache.org content.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There \
is verbiage in there about mechanisms to avoid having a lab circumvent incubation \
process. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> \
hyperledger-tsc-bounces@lists.hyperledger.org \
[mailto:hyperledger-tsc-bounces@lists.hyperledger.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>vipin \
bharathan via hyperledger-tsc<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 11, 2017 10:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Behlendorf &lt;bbehlendorf@linuxfoundation.org&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> hyperledger-tsc &lt;hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hyperledger Project TSC] [Proposal] Hyperledger \
Labs<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I support the concept of the Labs for the following \
reasons:<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">We are an umbrella organisation to shelter developments that are \
Open Source dealing with Blockchain.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Of course the developments have to adopt some basic governance \
like licensing, scope(Blockchain related) and clean and open code \
development.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Labs is a great way to enforce these basic rules and not put a \
huge gating process for adoption under the HL umbrella.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This allows for true experimentation, and more viable projects \
to arise out of this environment. We should not be standing in the way of this \
environment; nothing should be done to discourage doers and \
volunteers.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">If they want to get to incubation; they will have to go through \
the same process as others, but they will be ready having passed through the initial \
process and having worked with the Lab maintainers on an ongoing \
basis.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Vipin&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 10, 2017 2:05 PM, &quot;Brian Behlendorf via \
hyperledger-tsc&quot; &lt;<a \
href="mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org">hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>&gt; \
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC \
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">That feels like a different \
conceptualization of this, as Labs is allowed to be a home for projects that aren't \
intended to go through the formal path to becoming a regular project, whereas \
projects in Incubation  really should be. Which reminds me....<br>
<br>
Brian<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On December 9, 2017 1:34:49 AM PST, Donald Liu / Linux \
Foundation APAC via hyperledger-tsc &lt;<a \
href="mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" \
target="_blank">hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> \
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">How about adding one more state in Project Lifecycle, and have \
it called "Inception"?<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 9 Dec 2017, at 16:36, Duncan Johnston-Watt via \
hyperledger-tsc &lt;<a href="mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" \
target="_blank">hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> \
</div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">&#43;1.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Duncan Johnston-Watt<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Founder &amp; Chair, Advisory Board | Cloudsoft \
Corporation<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="tel:&#43;44%207771%20902653" target="_blank">&#43;44 \
777 190 2653</a> | @duncanjw<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On 8 Dec 2017, at 21:48, Christopher Ferris via hyperledger-tsc &lt;<a \
href="mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" \
target="_blank">hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> \
</div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">To the question of &quot;how is this not just github&quot;? I \
think that the reasonable distinction is that the governance of Hyperledger Labs \
follows the IP requirements of Hyperledger (ASL2.0 and CCBY4.0) and enforcement by \
GitHub's DCOBOT and  that they are also bound by our code of conduct. They also can \
leverage the chat and email resources (optionally) which brings them into the \
&quot;community&quot;.<o:p></o:p></p> <div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, you *could* do that on GH, but for these projects we put in \
place maintainers (of the whole labs) to monitor and ensure the rules are being \
followed, etc.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">As to who makes the decision of &quot;appropriateness&quot; it \
would be the project (the labs project) maintainers, yes. I suppose we could add the \
obvious that the maintainers could defer any marginal cases to the \
TSC.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Bowman, Mic via hyperledger-tsc \
&lt;<a href="mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" \
target="_blank">hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> \
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in \
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"> <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This \
looks great! Thanks for putting together the proposal!</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Two \
questions… First, is there an expectation that a project proceed to incubation (or \
"die")? That  is… do you expect projects that have active maintainers to be able to \
operate in the labs indefinitely?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Second, \
how do you determine "appropriateness"? Per Dan's question about "what's the \
difference between  HL Labs and github?", it would probably be unreasonable for a new \
HL Labs project to use the HL Labs brand for a project that has nothing to do with \
blockchains or HL. Who makes that decision? The project \
maintainers?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--mic</span><o:p></o:p></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a \
name="m_4320393051659654721_m_-363558150776645"></a><b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> <a \
href="mailto:hyperledger-tsc-bounces@lists.hyperledger.org" \
target="_blank">hyperledger-tsc-bounces@lists.hyperledger.org</a> [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:hyperledger-tsc-bounces@lists.hyperledger.org" \
target="_blank">hyperledger-tsc-bounces@lists.hyperledger.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of \
</b>Tracy Kuhrt via hyperledger-tsc<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:08 \
AM<br> <b>To:</b> hyperledger-tsc &lt;<a \
href="mailto:hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org" \
target="_blank">hyperledger-tsc@lists.hyperledger.org</a>&gt;<br> <b>Subject:</b> \
[Hyperledger Project TSC] [Proposal] Hyperledger Labs</span><o:p></o:p></p> <div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> \
<div> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">At the Lisbon Hackfest, a \
few of us (Chris Ferris, Brian Behlendorf, Arnaud Le Hors) wrote a proposal for \
Hyperledger Labs. You can find the proposal here: <a \
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VbgmlIqDnUnvjxSJ5QTUBV-Qn3eA7Gduw0edjYgDXIY/edit?usp=sharing" \
target="_blank"> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VbgmlIqDnUnvjxSJ5QTUBV-Qn3eA7Gduw0edjYgDXIY/edit?usp=sharing</a>.&nbsp;We \
would like to receive some feedback on this proposal and discuss at an upcoming TSC \
meeting. In addition, we are looking for volunteers who wish to act  as maintainers \
for the Hyperledger Labs GitHub organization.<o:p></o:p></p> <div>
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<br> Tracy Kuhrt<br>
Community Architect, Hyperledger<br>
The Linux Foundation<br>
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