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Subject: [Hyperledger Project TSC] Fw: Re: GSL
From: Christopher B Ferris via hyperledger-tsc <hyperledger-tsc () lists ! hyperledger ! org>
Date: 2017-02-08 16:10:13
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<div class="socmaildefaultfont" dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, \
sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt" ><div dir="ltr" >All,</div> <div dir="ltr" > </div>
<div dir="ltr" >Please see attached email thread with Tamas. I am sharing, with his \
permission, the status of the GSL discussions that have been taking place since the \
DAH GSL paper was first published.</div> <div dir="ltr" > </div>
<div dir="ltr" >tl;dr: Tamas is taking some PTO but will present a proposal for GSL \
to TSC on 2/23 following his return.</div> <div dir="ltr" > </div>
<div dir="ltr" ><div class="socmaildefaultfont" dir="ltr" \
style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10.5pt" ><div class="socmaildefaultfont" dir="ltr" \
style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10.5pt" ><div dir="ltr" ><font face="Default Sans \
Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size="2" >Cheers,<br><br>Christopher \
Ferris<br>IBM Distinguished Engineer, CTO Open Technology<br>IBM Cloud, Open \
Technologies<br>email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com<br>twitter: @christo4ferris<br>blog: <a \
href="https://developer.ibm.com/opentech/author/chrisfer/" \
>https://developer.ibm.com/opentech/author/chrisfer/</a><br>phone: +1 508 667 \
> 0402</font></div></div></div></div>
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<blockquote data-history-content-modified="1" data-history-expanded="1" dir="ltr" \
style="border-left:solid #aaaaaa 2px; margin-left:5px; padding-left:5px; \
direction:ltr; margin-right:0px" >----- Original message -----<br>From: Tamas Blummer \
<tamas@digitalasset.com><br>To: Christopher B Ferris/Waltham/IBM@IBMUS<br>Cc: \
bbehlendorf@linuxfoundation.org, Shaul Kfir <shaul@digitalasset.com>, \
tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org<br>Subject: Re: GSL<br>Date: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 10:06 \
AM<br> <br><!--Notes ACF <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html \
charset=utf8" >--> <div>Yes, thank you.</div>
<div><div><div><div><div><div apple-content-edited="true" ><div \
apple-content-edited="true" ><div><div style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-size: \
12px;" ><div style="font-size: small; display: inline;" ><b>TAMAS \
BLUMMER</b></div>
<div style="display: inline;" ><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" \
>CHIEF LEDGER ARCHITECT</font></div></div> <div style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); \
> font-size: 12px;" > </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><span><span><span><span><span><img \
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255); color: rgb(67, 67, 67);" ><span><span><span><span><font face="arial, helvetica, \
sans-serif" size="1" >DIGITAL ASSET HUNGARY, KFT<br> VACI UT \
76, 3RD FLOOR \
</font><br> <span \
style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;" \
>1133 </span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" >BUDAPEST, \
> HUNGARY</font></span></span></span></span></td> <td \
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> 255, 255);" ><span><span><span><span><font color="#0433ff" face="Arial" size="1" \
> ><u><a href="tel:+1+202-365-1448" target="_blank" >+</a>36 1 883 \
> > 0300</u></font></span></span></span></span> <div \
> > style="display: inline;" ><span><span><span><span><font color="#0433ff" \
> > face="Arial" size="1" ><u><a href="mailto:angela@digitalasset.com" \
> > target="_blank" ></a></u></font></span></span></span></span></div>
<div style="display: inline;" ><span><span><span><span><font \
color="#0433ff" face="Arial" size="1" ><u><a href="mailto:angela@digitalasset.com" \
target="_blank" >tamas</a></u></font></span></span></span></span></div> \
<span><span><span><span><font color="#0433ff" face="Arial" size="1" ><u><a \
href="mailto:angela@digitalasset.com" target="_blank" >@digitalasset.com</a><br> \
<a href="http://digitalasset.com/" target="_blank" \
>digitalasset.com</a></u></font></span></span></span></span></td> \
> </tr> </tbody></table></div>
<div><blockquote type="cite" ><div>On 08 Feb 2017, at 15:32, Christopher B Ferris \
<<a href="mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com" target="_blank" >chrisfer@us.ibm.com</a>> \
wrote:</div>
<div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt" \
><div dir="ltr" >Ok, great. May I share this with the TSC list? I am sure others are \
> also interested.</div>
<div dir="ltr" > </div>
<div dir="ltr" ><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10.5pt" ><div \
dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10.5pt" ><div dir="ltr" ><font \
face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size="2" \
>Cheers,<br><br>Christopher Ferris<br>IBM Distinguished Engineer, CTO Open \
> Technology<br>IBM Cloud, Open Technologies<br>email: <a \
> href="mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com" target="_blank" \
> >chrisfer@us.ibm.com</a><br>twitter: @christo4ferris<br>blog: <a \
> > href="https://developer.ibm.com/opentech/author/chrisfer/" target="_blank" \
> > >https://developer.ibm.com/opentech/author/chrisfer/</a><br>phone: +1 508 667 \
> > > 0402</font></div></div></div></div>
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>----- Original message -----<br>From: Tamas Blummer <<a \
> href="mailto:tamas@digitalasset.com" target="_blank" \
> >tamas@digitalasset.com</a>><br>To: Christopher B \
> > Ferris/Waltham/IBM@IBMUS<br>Cc: Shaul Kfir <<a \
> > href="mailto:shaul@digitalasset.com" target="_blank" \
> > >shaul@digitalasset.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org" \
> > > target="_blank" >tbenzies@linuxfoundation.org</a>, <a \
> > > href="mailto:bbehlendorf@linuxfoundation.org" target="_blank" \
> > > >bbehlendorf@linuxfoundation.org</a><br>Subject: Re: GSL<br>Date: Wed, Feb 8, \
> > > > 2017 8:30 AM<br> <br><!--Notes ACF
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf8" >-->Hi Chris,
<div> </div>
<div>I will have to commute to the airport during the time of tomorrow's TSC call, \
and will be on vacation during the next. I will present concrete plans to present by \
the 23rd February call.</div> <div> </div>
<div>As promised in our non-technical paper, DA will follow up with a technical \
design first. We do not start with actual code for three reasons:</div> \
<div> </div> <div>1. Our own GSL implementation is tailored to our current \
delivery need and is tightly coupled with the rest of the codebase. We do not have \
the resources at hand to extract it into an open source project.</div> \
<div> </div> <div>2. We believe that air dropping our GSL would not lead to \
adoption as a runtime component, rather to joint design discussions and perhaps \
reimplementation within HL. We can achieve both of these by presenting the concrete \
design of our GSL (and even a better v2 design with the power of hindsight) even \
without the reference implementation. </div> <div> </div>
<div>3. Implementing a GSL interface on top of Fabric or Corda is technically \
feasible. It should however be a decision of the HL community after discussion of the \
design where it commits resources to. We will likely open source some building \
blocks for either or a new project.</div> <div> </div>
<div>We are currently also working on a document suggesting a common terminology for \
concepts existent across Fabric, Corda and Digital Asset platform. We believe common \
terminology would be very helpful grounding the design discussion.</div> \
<div> </div> <div>I hope above helps to understand our position and plan. I am \
looking forward to collaborating on this with HL.</div> <div> </div>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div apple-content-edited="true" ><div \
apple-content-edited="true" ><div><div style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-size: \
12px;" ><div style="font-size: small; display: inline;" ><b>TAMAS \
BLUMMER</b></div>
<div style="display: inline;" ><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" \
>CHIEF LEDGER ARCHITECT</font></div></div> <div style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); \
> font-size: 12px;" > </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><span><span><span><span><span><span \
> id="cid:2C025015-191F-4517-B177-65100A7316BA" \
> ><Image.2C025015-191F-4517-B177-65100A7316BA.png></span></span></span></span></span></span><br>
> >
<table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" dir="ltr" > <tbody> \
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border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(255, 255, \
255); color: rgb(67, 67, 67);" ><span><span><span><span><font face="arial, helvetica, \
sans-serif" size="1" >DIGITAL ASSET HUNGARY, KFT<br> VACI UT \
76, 3RD FLOOR \
</font><br> <span \
style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;" \
>1133 </span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1" >BUDAPEST, \
> HUNGARY</font></span></span></span></span></td> <td \
> style="padding: 2px 3px; vertical-align: bottom; border-right-width: 1px; \
> border-right-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); \
> border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(255, \
> 255, 255);" ><span><span><span><span><font color="#0433ff" face="Arial" size="1" \
> ><u><a href="tel:+1+202-365-1448" target="_blank" >+</a>36 1 883 \
> > 0300</u></font></span></span></span></span> <div \
> > style="display: inline;" ><span><span><span><span><font color="#0433ff" \
> > face="Arial" size="1" ><u><a href="mailto:angela@digitalasset.com" \
> > target="_blank" ></a></u></font></span></span></span></span></div>
<div style="display: inline;" ><span><span><span><span><font \
color="#0433ff" face="Arial" size="1" ><u><a href="mailto:angela@digitalasset.com" \
target="_blank" >tamas</a></u></font></span></span></span></span></div> \
<span><span><span><span><font color="#0433ff" face="Arial" size="1" ><u><a \
href="mailto:angela@digitalasset.com" target="_blank" >@digitalasset.com</a><br> \
<a href="http://digitalasset.com/" target="_blank" \
>digitalasset.com</a></u></font></span></span></span></span></td> \
> </tr> </tbody></table></div>
<div><blockquote type="cite" ><div>On 08 Feb 2017, at 02:18, Christopher B Ferris \
<<a href="mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com" target="_blank" >chrisfer@us.ibm.com</a>> \
wrote:</div>
<div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt" \
><div dir="ltr" >Tamas/Shaul,</div> <div dir="ltr" > </div>
<div dir="ltr" >What's the latest on GSL? We never got the chance to follow-up on \
this following Construct.</div> <div dir="ltr" >Is there to be a project proposal of \
sorts?</div> <div dir="ltr" > </div>
<div dir="ltr" ><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10.5pt" ><div \
dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10.5pt" ><div dir="ltr" ><font \
face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size="2" \
>Cheers,<br><br>Christopher Ferris<br>IBM Distinguished Engineer, CTO Open \
> Technology<br>IBM Cloud, Open Technologies<br>email: <a \
> href="mailto:chrisfer@us.ibm.com" target="_blank" \
> >chrisfer@us.ibm.com</a><br>twitter: @christo4ferris<br>blog: <a \
> > href="https://developer.ibm.com/opentech/author/chrisfer/" target="_blank" \
> > >https://developer.ibm.com/opentech/author/chrisfer/</a><br>phone: +1 508 667 \
> > > 0402</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br><span \
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