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From: devmania101 () netscape ! net
Date: 2006-04-12 21:29:23
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Thank you for your answers. What I was thinking is to try using Hurd instead of Linux \
and port my program to it. It might call some system libraries, but then I am not \
going to ship those libraries, they are already built into Hurd. So if I understood \
it correctly then my program won't fall into GPL. Another question that just occured \
to me is the case of demons. Where do these fall? What are they called under Hurd? \
Thanks.
Joshua
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:20:55 -0400
From: devmania101@netscape.net
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Hi,
I read the GPL license for Hurd and have one question. If I develop an
application that would link libraries dynamically would I have to still provide
the source code and will it have to be in GPL License? Are there any exceptions
just like LGPL license? Thanks.
Joshua
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:13:35 +0200
From: Bas Wijnen <shevek@fmf.nl>
Subject: Re: License issue
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Hi,
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 05:20:55PM -0400, devmania101@netscape.net wrote:
> If I develop an application that would link libraries dynamically would I
> have to still provide the source code and will it have to be in GPL License?
You should be a bit more clear about which parts are covered by the GPL. I
see two obvious scenarios, if you mean another one, please be clear.
- The library is covered by the GPL. In that case a program linking to it
must be covered by it as well (although some people disagree about this, but
AFAIK this hasn't been tested in court. Personally I wouldn't take the
chance).
- The library is not covered by the GPL, but you want to run the application
on the Hurd, or it is a Hurd system library (which you aren't going to ship
with your application). In that case, I think the GPL does not apply to
your program, so you can license in any way you like.
> Are there any exceptions just like LGPL license?
A GPL licensed program cannot be relicensed by anyone except the copyright
holder. If the license is GPL, no exceptions like the LGPL provides are
allowed, except if explicitly given in the license (and that's all licenses,
from all copyright holders, not just one).
Hope this helps,
Bas
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:36:56 +0800
From: Wei Mingzhi <weimz@hotpop.com>
Subject: Re: License issue
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Put it simple: If it's just a program merely runs under GNU Operating
System, then no problem.If it's a Hurd server which uses the Libraries
shipped with Hurd, then yes. BUT, if your problem isn't _supposed_ to be
released in any form, then you don't have to "provide the source code"
to anyone _at all_.
Wei Mingzhi
devmania101@netscape.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I read the GPL license for Hurd and have one question. If I develop an
> application that would link libraries dynamically would I have to
> still provide the source code and will it have to be in GPL License?
> Are there any exceptions just like LGPL license? Thanks.
>
> Joshua
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then I am not going to ship those libraries, they are already built into Hurd. So if \
I understood it correctly then my program won't fall into GPL. Another question that \
just occured to me is the case of demons. Where do these fall? What are they called \
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Hi,
I read the GPL license for Hurd and have one question. If I develop an
application that would link libraries dynamically would I have to still provide
the source code and will it have to be in GPL License? Are there any exceptions
just like LGPL license? Thanks.
Joshua
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:13:35 +0200
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Hi,
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 05:20:55PM -0400, <A \
href="mailto:devmania101%40netscape.net">devmania101@netscape.net</A> wrote: > If \
I develop an application that would link libraries dynamically would I > have to \
still provide the source code and will it have to be in GPL License?
You should be a bit more clear about which parts are covered by the GPL. I
see two obvious scenarios, if you mean another one, please be clear.
- The library is covered by the GPL. In that case a program linking to it
must be covered by it as well (although some people disagree about this, but
AFAIK this hasn't been tested in court. Personally I wouldn't take the
chance).
- The library is not covered by the GPL, but you want to run the application
on the Hurd, or it is a Hurd system library (which you aren't going to ship
with your application). In that case, I think the GPL does not apply to
your program, so you can license in any way you like.
> Are there any exceptions just like LGPL license?
A GPL licensed program cannot be relicensed by anyone except the copyright
holder. If the license is GPL, no exceptions like the LGPL provides are
allowed, except if explicitly given in the license (and that's all licenses,
from all copyright holders, not just one).
Hope this helps,
Bas
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Put it simple: If it's just a program merely runs under GNU Operating
System, then no problem.If it's a Hurd server which uses the Libraries
shipped with Hurd, then yes. BUT, if your problem isn't _supposed_ to be
released in any form, then you don't have to "provide the source code"
to anyone _at all_.
Wei Mingzhi
<A href="mailto:devmania101%40netscape.net">devmania101@netscape.net</A> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I read the GPL license for Hurd and have one question. If I develop an
> application that would link libraries dynamically would I have to
> still provide the source code and will it have to be in GPL License?
> Are there any exceptions just like LGPL license? Thanks.
>
> Joshua
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