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Subject: Re: [HTTPS-Everywhere] Feature request: option to disable icon in location bar in Android
From: Ryan Fugger <arv () ryanfugger ! com>
Date: 2014-02-15 23:04:33
Message-ID: CAD83BY1MBoP5dg1kbNFY2mVnwvubSAx46nJCcWJ5TuVWy-Pvng () mail ! gmail ! com
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Ok, what's happening then is that there are no rules being applied on the
current page. Certainly the icon isn't necessary in that case.
The best thing I think would be to copy adblock and similar plugins: have
an item in the main drop-down menu for controlling settings for the the
current page, and move global settings to the add-on options page.
Imagine if every add-on put its icon in the location bar? I need that space
to see the page title, as well as hit the FF readability icon. HTTPS
Everywhere just isn't important enough to me on a page-by-page basis to
warrant using that space. I'm sure there's a Mozilla add-on guideline
document somewhere that would agree with me :)
On Feb 15, 2014 1:52 PM, "Yan Zhu" <yan@eff.org> wrote:
> Hi Ryan! Thanks for the feedback. I too was concerned about the lack of
> UI space on mobile when I put the icon in the URL bar.
>
> You might be hitting some bugs, but what is supposed to happen with the
> menu that pops up is:
>
> 1. The menu shows a list of rules that could have been applied in
> loading the current page. The checkbox state indicates whether a rule
> was on or off. (Some rules are disabled by default because they usually
> cause sites to break, but sometimes users can deal with the breakage.)
>
> 2. After the user toggles a checkbox and clicks "Apply", the rule gets
> turned on/off globally.
>
> 3. The new state of the ruleset should persist; if you click on the menu
> again, things should look different than they were before.
>
>
> While I was testing this, everything worked as expected 95% of the time.
> Once in a while, the menu wouldn't populate at all even when there were
> applicable rulesets, but this was fixed by reloading the page.
>
> I would like to keep this feature because there are a lot of cases where
> a site breaks because of a particular ruleset; it's useful for debugging
> purposes for the user to see which rules were applied, and it's better
> to let them disable single rules rather than the entire extension. In
> fact, for users who are contributing new rulesets or fixing broken ones,
> this is probably crucial.
>
> I'm open to suggestions about other places to put it though, especially
> if multiple people find that it clutters up the UI. I have no problems
> on my Galaxy Nexus though.
>
> -Yan
>
> On 02/15/2014 12:47 PM, Ryan Fugger wrote:
> > I would like to be able to remove the HTTPS Everywhere icon in the
> > location bar in Android (version 3.5android.0). It clutters the
> > interface where there is other important functionality that I need to
> > access.
> >
> > Further, I would recommend having this icon removed by default, or even
> > removed as a feature completely. How often does the user need access to
> > this menu? (I am not even clear what this menu is for --
> > "Enable/disable rules: apply changes"? Which rules (global? this site
> > only?), which changes? When I click "Apply changes", the page reloads,
> > but when I again select the menu, it is exactly the same -- no
> > notification what has happened, if anything; no way to tell whether the
> > rules in question are now enabled or disabled; no way to know whether
> > the action, whatever it is supposed to accomplish, was effective. This
> > feature should be in the usual options page of the add-on. UI space on
> > android is too precious to waste on slightly faster access to a
> > rarely-used rules toggle.
> >
> > Thanks for making this product. I hope I can help improve it.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > HTTPS-Everywhere mailing list
> > HTTPS-Everywhere@lists.eff.org
> > https://lists.eff.org/mailman/listinfo/https-everywhere
> >
>
>
>
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<p dir="ltr">Ok, what's happening then is that there are no rules being applied \
on the current page. Certainly the icon isn't necessary in that case. </p> <p \
dir="ltr">The best thing I think would be to copy adblock and similar plugins: have \
an item in the main drop-down menu for controlling settings for the the current page, \
and move global settings to the add-on options page. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Imagine if every add-on put its icon in the location bar? I need that \
space to see the page title, as well as hit the FF readability icon. HTTPS Everywhere \
just isn't important enough to me on a page-by-page basis to warrant using that \
space. I'm sure there's a Mozilla add-on guideline document somewhere that \
would agree with me :) </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 15, 2014 1:52 PM, "Yan Zhu" <<a \
href="mailto:yan@eff.org">yan@eff.org</a>> wrote:<br \
type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Ryan! Thanks for the feedback. \
I too was concerned about the lack of<br> UI space on mobile when I put the icon in \
the URL bar.<br> <br>
You might be hitting some bugs, but what is supposed to happen with the<br>
menu that pops up is:<br>
<br>
1. The menu shows a list of rules that could have been applied in<br>
loading the current page. The checkbox state indicates whether a rule<br>
was on or off. (Some rules are disabled by default because they usually<br>
cause sites to break, but sometimes users can deal with the breakage.)<br>
<br>
2. After the user toggles a checkbox and clicks "Apply", the rule gets<br>
turned on/off globally.<br>
<br>
3. The new state of the ruleset should persist; if you click on the menu<br>
again, things should look different than they were before.<br>
<br>
<br>
While I was testing this, everything worked as expected 95% of the time.<br>
Once in a while, the menu wouldn't populate at all even when there were<br>
applicable rulesets, but this was fixed by reloading the page.<br>
<br>
I would like to keep this feature because there are a lot of cases where<br>
a site breaks because of a particular ruleset; it's useful for debugging<br>
purposes for the user to see which rules were applied, and it's better<br>
to let them disable single rules rather than the entire extension. In<br>
fact, for users who are contributing new rulesets or fixing broken ones,<br>
this is probably crucial.<br>
<br>
I'm open to suggestions about other places to put it though, especially<br>
if multiple people find that it clutters up the UI. I have no problems<br>
on my Galaxy Nexus though.<br>
<br>
-Yan<br>
<br>
On 02/15/2014 12:47 PM, Ryan Fugger wrote:<br>
> I would like to be able to remove the HTTPS Everywhere icon in the<br>
> location bar in Android (version 3.5android.0). It clutters the<br>
> interface where there is other important functionality that I need to<br>
> access.<br>
><br>
> Further, I would recommend having this icon removed by default, or even<br>
> removed as a feature completely. How often does the user need access to<br>
> this menu? (I am not even clear what this menu is for --<br>
> "Enable/disable rules: apply changes"? Which rules (global? this \
site<br> > only?), which changes? When I click "Apply changes", the \
page reloads,<br> > but when I again select the menu, it is exactly the same -- \
no<br> > notification what has happened, if anything; no way to tell whether \
the<br> > rules in question are now enabled or disabled; no way to know \
whether<br> > the action, whatever it is supposed to accomplish, was effective. \
This<br> > feature should be in the usual options page of the add-on. UI space \
on<br> > android is too precious to waste on slightly faster access to a<br>
> rarely-used rules toggle.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for making this product. I hope I can help improve it.<br>
><br>
> Ryan<br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> HTTPS-Everywhere mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:HTTPS-Everywhere@lists.eff.org">HTTPS-Everywhere@lists.eff.org</a><br>
> <a href="https://lists.eff.org/mailman/listinfo/https-everywhere" \
target="_blank">https://lists.eff.org/mailman/listinfo/https-everywhere</a><br> \
><br> <br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
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