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Subject:    Re: [Hsqldb-user] compress large database
From:       "Bayless Kirtley" <bkirt () cox ! net>
Date:       2015-10-24 13:32:55
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Excellent idea Fred. Soon as it is proven, I'll be happy to offer it open source.

Bayless


From: Fred Toussi 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:22 AM
To: HSQLDB user list 
Subject: Re: [Hsqldb-user] compress large database

Your charity software would be useful around the world for food banks (as they are \
called over here). Good idea to make it available as open source.

Fred

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015, at 14:18, Bayless Kirtley wrote:
  Thanks a lot Fred. Dang, now I remember Shutdown Compact. I guess it's been a long \
time since I had to deal with a larger database.

  BTW, it's been a long time since I thanked you for this outstanding piece of \
software. Being retired, I don't develop anything but what I want to and it seems \
everything involves Java and HSQLDB. The only reason I took this one on is it is a \
charity project for a local food pantry, managed by a friend and feeding the needy. \
The reason you don ‘t hear much from me anymore is that there are just never any \
problems.

  Bayless


  From: Fred Toussi
  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 6:02 AM
  To: HSQLDB user list
  Subject: Re: [Hsqldb-user] compress large database

  You can use either SHUTDOWN COMPACT or CHECKPOINT DEFRAG to compact the database \
file after removing several large tables.

  Alternatively you could use TEXT tables for the raw import of the data. As the data \
for these tables is stored separately in individual files, you can later drop the \
tables and delete their files.

  Fred

  On Thu, Oct 22, 2015, at 20:34, Bayless Kirtley wrote:
    Is there a way to compress a large database after removing several tables? I am \
converting an Access database to HSQL and Java and have several large tables for raw \
import of the Access tables. After massaging them into final form, I drop the raw \
tables but the size of the database files does not seem to notice that. It stays \
about double the size it needs to be.

    Thanks
    Bayless

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<DIV>Excellent idea Fred. Soon as it is proven, I'll be happy to offer it open 
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<DIV>Bayless</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fredt@users.sourceforge.net 
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 23, 2015 10:22 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>Your charity software would be useful around the world for food banks (as 
they are called over here). Good idea to make it available as open source.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Fred</DIV>
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<DIV>On Fri, Oct 23, 2015, at 14:18, Bayless Kirtley wrote:</DIV>
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  <DIV>Thanks a lot Fred. Dang, now I remember Shutdown Compact. I guess it's 
  been a long time since I had to deal with a larger database.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>BTW, it's been a long time since I thanked you for this outstanding piece 
  of software. Being retired, I don't develop anything but what I want to and it 
  seems everything involves Java and HSQLDB. The only reason I took this one on 
  is it is a charity project for a local food pantry, managed by a friend and 
  feeding the needy. The reason you don ‘t hear much from me anymore is that 
  there are just never any problems.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Bayless</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV 
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  <DIV style="font-color: black"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN> <A 
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  <DIV>You can use either SHUTDOWN COMPACT or CHECKPOINT DEFRAG to compact the 
  database file after removing several large tables.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Alternatively you could use TEXT tables for the raw import of the data. 
  As the data for these tables is stored separately in individual files, you can 
  later drop the tables and delete their files.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Fred</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>On Thu, Oct 22, 2015, at 20:34, Bayless Kirtley wrote:</DIV>
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    <DIV>Is there a way to compress a large database after removing several 
    tables? I am converting an Access database to HSQL and Java and have several 
    large tables for raw import of the Access tables. After massaging them into 
    final form, I drop the raw tables but the size of the database files does 
    not seem to notice that. It stays about double the size it needs to 
be.</DIV>
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    <DIV>Thanks</DIV>
    <DIV>Bayless</DIV>
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