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List:       helix-open-discuss
Subject:    [Open-discuss] Notes from Contributor Telecon (03/22)
From:       Anand <anandv () real ! com>
Date:       2005-03-23 0:03:46
Message-ID: 4240B262.7030002 () real ! com
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Hi all,
   The notes from the telecon are attached below. These notes will be 
posted on community website shortly . . .

-- HC.org team

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Teleconference Attendees
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1. Anand Vaidyanathan (RealNetworks)
2. Rob Lanphier (RealNetworks)
3. Gowtham Yemme (67kHz, Community Developer on Symbian)
4. Scott Nelson (RealNetworks)
5. Greg Wright (RealNetworks)
6. Rick Koller (RealNetworks)
7. Kevin Scott (Nokia)
8. Simon Khoo (Nokia)
9. Rishi Mathew (RealNetworks)
10. Ryan Gammon (RealNetworks)
11. Luis Saldana (Dextratech)
12. Michael Maloney
13. Paul Cosway (Ressen Design)
14. Vikram Dendi (RealNetworks)
15. Rahul Agarwal (Adroit Business Solutions Inc.)
16. Milko Boic (RealNetworks)
17. Sherri Kent (RealNetworks)
18. Haydon Boone (RealNetworks)

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Topic #1: Agenda Bashing
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Topic #2: hc.org feature development (Owner: Anand)
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[ANAND] three phases
[ANAND] first phase - bug fix/infrastructure stabilization phase
[ANAND] second phase - plug ins
[ROBLA] link to the bug list: 
https://bugs.helixcommunity.org/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_statu \
s=NEW&bug_status=OPEN&bug_status=RESOLVED&bugidtype=include&chfieldto=Now&emailassigne \
d_to1=1&emailassigned_to2=1&emailcc2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailsearch \
1=login&emailsearch2=login&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field0-0-0=noop&l \
ong_desc_type=substring&newquery=1&product=community&product=community-private&short_desc_type=all
 [ROBLA] have a link on community page about the list of features
[GWRIGHT] site wide search
[RKOLLER] Migrate to GForge 4.x
kevinS, Simon and Rishi second the search requirement
[RYAN] Usability and site navigation
[MMALONEY] remember user login and have universal login feature
[PAUL] prefer search features and seconds navigation
[VIKRAM] customize home page, ability to personalize, wiki integration
milko and Rahul seconds search and wiki....
[HAYDON] most active discussions and conversations in the community, 
monitoring mailing lists and forums
[GOWTHAM] search, navigation and more documentation
[GOWTHAM] Documentation -> class diagrams, object relations etc.
[RISHI] having a test site with helix server running where community 
members can test their stuff with different content
[ROBLA] matt lapora already working on something similar -- we have a 
test suite, content -- looking for the right place to host it
[ROBLA] this should be tracked as a feature -- might get resolved 
without this teams intervention
[ROBLA] mailman integration (single sign in)

Topic #3: Taxonomy for component licensing
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[ROBLA] Ryan has been working on componentizing the helix/real player 
framework
[ROBLA] proposal for first category of stuff (licensed under RPSL, RCSL 
& GPL) -- core / common / libre / nodist
[ROBLA] (Sharon's suggestion) baseline
[KEVINS] is this the same as (legal Dept's) DNA?
[ROBLA] yes
[RISHI] seconds DNA
consensus on name = DNA
[ROBLA] category 2 -- mp3 / AAC (licensed stuff)
[ROBLA] suggestion -> encumbered
[KEVINS] is this same as 'restricted'
[ROBLA] no .. this source code is available without and click-wraps
[ROBLA] restricted code needs some sort of R&D License
[MILKO] how does this definition co-exist with the earlier DNA 
definition does this mean that mp3 and aac is not a part of the DNA?  
while it is actually a part of the DNA
[ROBLA] we could have DNAbase & DNAencumbered
[ROBLA] RARV is not really part of the helix DNA
[MILKO] we could just have base and encumbered
[ROBLA] we do mix and match -- if mp3 is a part of DNA is a gray area 
right now
consensus on dna-base and dna-encumbered as the 2 categories (so far)
[ROBLA] category 3 -- restricted code - have to sign AttG or similar to 
get access to this - suggestions: restricted, extended, plus
[HAYDON] if plus nomenclature removes confusion -- then we should go 
with 'plus'
[MILKO] does plus include rarv code repositories
[ROBLA] yeah
[MILKO] even tho they might be offered under different licensing terms
[ROBLA] yes
[ROBLA] this facilitates any new additions to the package
consensus on dna-plus
[ROBLA] 3 categories --> dna--base, dna-encumbered, dna-plus

Topic #4: Status of Linux ARM
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[ROBLA] Latest effort has been by Rishi (RN) and folks from Motorola
[ROBLA] Linux-arm work on cayenne?
[RISHI] yes
[RISHI] Motorola ported the cayenne branch onto MonteVista Linux looking 
good as far as image size is concerned
[RISHI] image size reduced 30% using Function Level Linking, and 
documentation on this process released earlier
[ROBLA] using rlink tool for that -- which is released under the nightly 
builds
[PAUL] not working on head or cayenne at this point
[PAUL] active on getting helix running for arms 7 or 9
[PAUL] testing / evaluating / running on various Intel / sharp processors
[ROBLA] we have put in a lot of work in substantial improvement in 
distlib supports
[PAUL] yes, true
[ROBLA] one of the biggest challenges is that the possible compiler 
nuances seem to be more prominent on arm platforms than other platforms
[ROBLA]  mailing list (linuxarm-dev@hc.org) for more details and discussions

Topic #5: DEVELOPMENT ISSUES
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[ROBLA] would it make sense to have an update on and dev efforts
[RAHUL] updates on feature additions -- specifically on the helix client
[PAUL] putting helix on a Sony portable devices (potentially a huge market)
[ROBLA] what is the chip set / os
[PAUL] SR400 @ 300 MHz, not sure of the OS
[ROBLA] not anything active for PS portable
[KEVINS] is this the place to talk about process road mapping?
[ROBLA] absolutely
[KEVINS] i would like to propose that -- for helix in general - 
direction where the community is headed should be visible, anyone who 
wants in implement a feature can go ahead and do it -- but the overall 
picture should be evident
[ROBLA] helix-dna client in particular -- consists of a large team -- 
request Haydon / milko to provide a brief overview
[ROBLA] as far as real player -- Vikram / Ryan could speak to road map 
issues
[ROBLA] server: Larry young, dean Collins
[ROBLA] producer -- sorin
[KEVINS] would be nice to have something similar to FireFox 2.0 -- would 
be nice to see where the overall project is headed
[KEVINS] that way users and developers know what is going on
[ROBLA] for these kind of features -- look at helix-client project for 
road map
[MLIKO] process by which any major feature into the helix framework can 
be accepted and documented

Summary of Action Items
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(anandv) link to query/queries on community.helixcommunity.org


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