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List:       gtk-devel
Subject:    Re: migrating gtk
From:       Sriram Ramkrishna <sri () ramkrishna ! me>
Date:       2018-02-08 2:00:16
Message-ID: CADWtFEkaJtV3Y+hMrFN3rdQ9VZF0K9U3JYzByn1Nxz-b1oZ1tA () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:31 AM Matthias Clasen <matthias.clasen@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I will ignore the childish name-calling here and just state that as far as
> I am concerned,
> the bugs you file are donations to the project. What we do with them is up
> to us. If we decide
> to fix them, good for you. If not, that's tough and annoying, but lets
> face it: there is an infinite
> number of bug reporters out there, and only a handful of people who spend
> their free time trying
> to keep up with it, so some bugs will always go unfixed, that is just
> reality.
>
>
>
Much as I would hate to extend this conversation beyond what was said; I
felt compelled to comment.  I feel like this is not a very positive message
to send to the overall community.

While brutally true, there is an underlying messaging that encourages a
"why bother?" response from potential contributors.  I am sure that is not
that the intent but messaging is important.

While none of you are PR people and tend to dispense with messaging in lieu
of fortright conversations - I would like to point out that if we want to
increase resources for GTK+ and not be a small group of overworked core
GTK+ people the first step is ensure that we are a community worth
investing time and effort in.

Every contributor who takes an actionable step and reports a bug is a
potential future core contributor.  Please remember that.  A person who
attempts to fix a bug with a patch is even more valuable.

Cheers,
sri

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<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at \
8:31 AM Matthias Clasen &lt;<a \
href="mailto:matthias.clasen@gmail.com">matthias.clasen@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I will \
ignore the childish name-calling here and just state that as far as I am \
concerned,<br></div>the bugs you file are donations to the project. What we do with \
them is up to us. If we decide</div><div>to fix them, good for you. If not, \
that&#39;s tough and annoying, but lets face it: there is an \
infinite</div><div>number of bug reporters out there, and only a handful of people \
who spend their free time trying</div><div>to keep up with it, so some bugs will \
always go unfixed, that is just reality.<br></div><div><div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div></div></div><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Much \
as I would hate to extend this conversation beyond what was said; I felt compelled to \
comment.   I feel like this is not a very positive message to send to the overall \
community.<br><br></div><div>While brutally true, there is an underlying messaging \
that encourages a &quot;why bother?&quot; response from potential contributors.   I \
am sure that is not that the intent but messaging is important.   <br><br>While none \
of you are PR people and tend to dispense with messaging in lieu of fortright \
conversations - I would like to point out that if we want to increase resources for \
GTK+ and not be a small group of overworked core GTK+ people the first step is ensure \
that we are a community worth investing time and effort in.<br><br></div><div>Every \
contributor who takes an actionable step and reports a bug is a potential future core \
contributor.   Please remember that.   A person who attempts to fix a bug with a \
patch is even more valuable.<br><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>sri<br></div></div></div>




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