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List:       gtk-devel
Subject:    Re: Sinkability considered harmful
From:       "Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro" <gjc () inescporto ! pt>
Date:       2006-01-04 0:15:08
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On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 18:52 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 23:43 +0000, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
> >   Completely agree.  Interesting read too.   I'd just like to add one
> > more thing.
> > 
> >   g_object_new *should* always return a new reference, to be owned by
> > the caller.  It usually does, except for g_object_new(GTK_TYPE_WINDOW,
> > NULL), in which case the caller does not own the object ref.  I don't
> > quite understand how this happened.  It should not be due to backward
> > compatibility because this is a new API (in glib 2.0). 
> 
> See my last mail explaining why g_object_new(GTK_TYPE_WINDOW) is just
> like g_object_new(GTK_TYPE_ENTRY). You don't own the initial reference
> in either case.
> 

  In your last email you don't say anything about GTK_TYPE_ENTRY, as far
as I can see.  And the explanation  "GtkWindow's are created owning
their own refcount, which they unref on ::destroy"  does not justify
anything, it merely states a fact.  I can almost understand why, in C,
gtk_window_new() can return a borrowed reference.  But g_object_new() is
a rather different API; it is mostly oriented towards language bindings
(or at least that's what it looks to me) and so it should be clean of
the inconsitencies that plague the gtk_*_new functions.

  And are you sure g_object_new(GTK_TYPE_ENTRY) returns a borrowed
reference?  If so, you may have uncovered a PyGTK bug, and would just
emphasizes how bad this inconsistency is.

  Regards.

-- 
Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
<gjc@inescporto.pt> <gustavo@users.sourceforge.net>
The universe is always one step beyond logic

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