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Subject:    Re: [Grinder-use] grinderAnalyzer Question - Travis
From:       anil_jacob () comcast ! net
Date:       2008-10-24 1:27:47
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Travis,

 TPS is not a number that will be determined before hand, the only thing that is \
known in advance is the goal of the performance testing i.e the number of users you \
want the server to support, the performance test determines the TPS and that in turn \
determines the capacity of the server in the number of users it can support.

Anyone looking at the graph should be able to tell what was the capacity of the \
server(TPS), what was the load(Users) and what was the reponsetime, to get a complete \
picture of the Performance test. If only the TPS and the elapsed time are displayed \
what was the load, 1 user? 2 users? 1000 users?

If a user graph can be added above the TPS graph or  have it included in the TPS \
graph, that will give a complete picture of server performance with no prior log \
analysis or modeling. It's a suggestion because I like the tool.

Anil


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Travis Bear <travis_bear@yahoo.com>
> Anil,
> 
> All Grinder Analyzer does is visualize TPS and response time for whatever test 
> you have configured.  It's possible you are looking at things backwards.  
> Normally you will already know in advance, via log analysis or modeling, how 
> many TPS a given number of users will cause.  So one normal approach would be 
to 
> increase the load on your server until it cannot go any faster.  Then use the 
> TPS you have measured to derive how many users your server can support.
> 
> -Travis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "anil_jacob@comcast.net" <anil_jacob@comcast.net>
> To: grinder-use@lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:42:07 PM
> Subject: [Grinder-use] grinderAnalyzer Question
> 
> 
> GrinderAnalyzer is a cool tool. 
> 
> I have a question about GrinderAnalyzer - Looking at the graphs, there does 
not 
> seem to be a way to determine the TPS for a set of users/threads. A the graph 
> displays elasped time vs TPS.
> 
> The criteria behind Performance testing is to determine the TPS for X users 
and 
> to see if the TPS keeps increasing as the number of users increase and the 
point 
> at which the TPS saturates for X users and also record response times wrt to 
TPS 
> & users?
> 
> Ideally shouldn't the graph be able to show this? Or is there a way to 
determine 
> this from the current graphs?
> 
> Thankx,
> Anil
> 
> 
> 
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Anil,

All Grinder Analyzer does is visualize TPS and response time for whatever test you \
have configured.  It's possible you are looking at things backwards.  Normally you \
will already know in advance, via log analysis or modeling, how many TPS a given \
number of users will cause.  So one normal approach would be to increase the load on \
your server until it cannot go any faster.  Then use the TPS you have measured to \
derive how many users your server can support.

-Travis






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From: "anil_jacob@comcast.net" <anil_jacob@comcast.net>
To: grinder-use@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:42:07 PM
Subject: [Grinder-use] grinderAnalyzer Question


GrinderAnalyzer is a cool tool. 

I have a question about GrinderAnalyzer - Looking at the graphs, there does not seem \
to be a way to determine the TPS for a set of users/threads. A the graph displays \
elasped time vs TPS.

The criteria behind Performance testing is to determine the TPS for X users and to \
see if the TPS keeps increasing as the number of users increase and the point at \
which the TPS saturates for X users and also record response times wrt to TPS & \
users?

Ideally shouldn't the graph be able to show this? Or is there a way to determine this \
from the current graphs?

Thankx,
Anil




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you will already know in advance, via log analysis or modeling, how many TPS a given \
number of users will cause.&nbsp; So one normal approach would be to increase the \
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