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Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] d.mon displays box on startup
From: Veronica Andreo <veroandreo () gmail ! com>
Date: 2018-12-28 2:22:24
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Hi Huidae,
El jue., 27 dic. 2018 22:17, Huidae Cho <grass4u@gmail.com> escribió:
> Hello Vero,
>
> Actually, 3b has a complete rectangle (NW in red, SE in blue)
>
Right :)
I overlooked the blue part. Still, IMHO, case 3b it's confusing.
Best,
Vero
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 7:24 PM Veronica Andreo <veroandreo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> +1 for showing computational region by default! It is a super handy
>> feature :)
>>
>> Regarding the different colors, I do not have a very strong opinion. I
>> was already used to blue for full region extent coincident with display and
>> red when display is different from region extent.
>> Case 3b proposed, IIUC, would mean that display will have incomplete
>> lines and that seems more confusing in my view. I would suggest that (if
>> implemented like this) 3b is shown as 3a.
>>
>> my2cents
>> Vero
>>
>> El lun., 24 dic. 2018 a las 15:30, Huidae Cho (<grass4u@gmail.com>)
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Maybe, this figure is easier to understand. blue for comp region and red
>>> for partial version.
>>>
>>> Black: display
>>> Blue: full comp region
>>> Red: partial intersection of display and full comp region
>>>
>>> In this color scheme, it's very clear what we're looking at in the
>>> display.
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> Huidae
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 9:06 AM Huidae Cho <grass4u@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So how does it work now in one color?
>>>>
>>>> 1. display == full comp region: red box
>>>> 2. display > and contains full comp region: red box smaller than display
>>>> 3. display < and inside full comp region: no box at all? (can be
>>>> confusing with cases 4 & 5) or red box (can be confusing with case 1). I
>>>> think we need two colors in this case? Actual comp region borders red,
>>>> Display borders within comp region blue (maybe, switching blue and red
>>>> would be better?). For example, completely inside (not crossing any comp
>>>> region boundaries) blue box. Looking at the east comp region boundary:
>>>> vertical line in red, top-left, bottom-left, and left in blue. Again, I
>>>> think if we use red and blue, it would be better to use blue for comp
>>>> region borders and red for partially/contained borders.
>>>> 4. display > and does not contain full comp region: no box
>>>> 5. display < and outside full comp region: no box
>>>>
>>>> Huidae
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 7:02 AM Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> st 26. 9. 2018 v 20:27 odesílatel Anna Petrášová <
>>>>> kratochanna@gmail.com> napsal:
>>>>> > I think it changes color depending if you are zoomed inside or
>>>>> outside of the region. I find this behavior little bit confusing, perhaps
>>>>> just having one color would be enough, and maybe don't show it when you are
>>>>> zoomed inside?
>>>>>
>>>>> in r73826 the settings was changed to show comp. region extent in red
>>>>> color only regardless display and computation extent position. If no
>>>>> objection I will do backport to g76 release branch in next days.
>>>>> Question is whether comp. region extent should be displayed by
>>>>> default. The behaviour has been changed accordingly [1], but
>>>>> unfortunately there was no feedback. Any opinion (since it affects
>>>>> 7.6.0 release)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ma
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/3519
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Martin Landa
>>>>> http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa
>>>>> http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Huidae Cho, Ph.D., GISP, PE (MD), CFM, M.ASCE
>>>> Open Source GIS Developer, GRASS GIS Development Team
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Huidae Cho, Ph.D., GISP, PE (MD), CFM, M.ASCE
>>> Open Source GIS Developer, GRASS GIS Development Team
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>>
>>
>
> --
> Huidae Cho, Ph.D., GISP, PE (MD), CFM, M.ASCE
> Open Source GIS Developer, GRASS GIS Development Team
>
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<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Huidae,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">El \
jue., 27 dic. 2018 22:17, Huidae Cho <<a href="mailto:grass4u@gmail.com" \
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">grass4u@gmail.com</a>> \
escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello \
Vero,</div><div><br></div><div>Actually, 3b has a complete rectangle (NW in red, SE \
in blue)</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">Right :) </div><div dir="auto">I overlooked the blue part. Still, IMHO, \
case 3b it's confusing.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto">Vero</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 \
at 7:24 PM Veronica Andreo <<a href="mailto:veroandreo@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer \
noreferrer" target="_blank">veroandreo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi \
all,</div><div><br></div><div>+1 for showing computational region by default! It is a \
super handy feature :)</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the different colors, I do \
not have a very strong opinion. I was already used to blue for full region extent \
coincident with display and red when display is different from region extent. \
<br></div><div>Case 3b proposed, IIUC, would mean that display will have incomplete \
lines and that seems more confusing in my view. I would suggest that (if implemented \
like this) 3b is shown as 3a. \
<br></div><div><br></div><div>my2cents</div><div>Vero<br></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">El lun., 24 dic. 2018 a las 15:30, Huidae Cho \
(<<a href="mailto:grass4u@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">grass4u@gmail.com</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Maybe, this figure is easier \
to understand. blue for comp region and red for partial \
version.</div><div><br></div><div>Black: display</div><div>Blue: full comp \
region</div><div>Red: partial intersection of display and full comp \
region</div><div><br></div><div>In this color scheme, it's very clear what \
we're looking at in the display.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><img \
alt="image.png" width="561" \
height="414"></div><div><br></div><div>Huidae</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 9:06 AM Huidae Cho <<a \
href="mailto:grass4u@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">grass4u@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>So how does it work now in one \
color?</div><div><br></div><div>1. display == full comp region: red \
box<br></div><div>2. display > and contains full comp region: red box smaller than \
display<br></div><div>3. display < and inside full comp region: no box at all? \
(can be confusing with cases 4 & 5) or red box (can be confusing with case 1). I \
think we need two colors in this case? Actual comp region borders red, Display \
borders within comp region blue (maybe, switching blue and red would be better?). For \
example, completely inside (not crossing any comp region boundaries) blue box. \
Looking at the east comp region boundary: vertical line in red, top-left, \
bottom-left, and left in blue. Again, I think if we use red and blue, it would be \
better to use blue for comp region borders and red for partially/contained \
borders.<br></div><div>4. display > and does not contain full comp region: no \
box</div><div>5. display < and outside full comp region: no \
box</div><div><br></div><div>Huidae<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div \
dir="ltr">On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 7:02 AM Martin Landa <<a \
href="mailto:landa.martin@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">landa.martin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br> <br>
st 26. 9. 2018 v 20:27 odesílatel Anna Petrášová <<a \
href="mailto:kratochanna@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">kratochanna@gmail.com</a>> napsal:<br> > I think it changes \
color depending if you are zoomed inside or outside of the region. I find this \
behavior little bit confusing, perhaps just having one color would be enough, and \
maybe don't show it when you are zoomed inside?<br> <br>
in r73826 the settings was changed to show comp. region extent in red<br>
color only regardless display and computation extent position. If no<br>
objection I will do backport to g76 release branch in next days.<br>
Question is whether comp. region extent should be displayed by<br>
default. The behaviour has been changed accordingly [1], but<br>
unfortunately there was no feedback. Any opinion (since it affects<br>
7.6.0 release)?<br>
<br>
Ma<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/3519" rel="noreferrer noreferrer \
noreferrer" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/3519</a><br> <br>
-- <br>
Martin Landa<br>
<a href="http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa</a><br> <a \
href="http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa</a><br> </blockquote></div><br \
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dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><span><div><div \
dir="ltr">Huidae Cho, Ph.D., GISP, PE (MD), CFM, M.ASCE<br>Open Source GIS Developer, \
GRASS GIS Development \
Team</div></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> \
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GRASS GIS Development \
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