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Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] call for volunteers - urgent need for Windows Vista
From: Michael Barton <Michael.Barton () asu ! edu>
Date: 2009-03-31 4:17:57
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MIlton,
This is great. My only concern is how to successfully package and
distribute this to others. I've been working with Colin Nielsen, who
has kindly provided a couple of vista binaries in the past week and we
can't get either to work so far. The seem to need additional dll's
that are hidden somewhere in the system.
I'm sure that there must be a way to package this up, but I don't know
what it is.
Michael
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Director of Graduate Studies
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
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On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
> I Just compiled grass6.5 under Msys Vista 64b, but I don't know if
> it helps.
> I am not familiar with the generation of installer, but I can share
> the directories with the grass structure....
>
> Bests
>
> miltinho
>
> 2009/3/26 Michael Barton <Michael.Barton@asu.edu>
> Whether you like it or not, it is nearly impossible to get a new PC
> without Windows Vista today. If we want GRASS to be accessible to
> Windows users, we need to have versions that run under Vista.
>
> Over the past year, the development team have worked to solve many
> issues that kept GRASS from running under Vista in the past. The
> only problem now is that there are no Windows Vista binaries for
> users. Furthermore, there is no current stand-alone Windows binary
> for GRASS at all.
>
> Marco Pasetti made a very nice Windows installer for 6.3 last year,
> but is unable to continue this work.
>
> Other folks in OSGEO have created OSGEO4W with a number of packages.
> However, GRASS is in the 'advanced' section--and it is not clear
> what libraries need to be downloaded with it--and it cannot be
> installed stand-alone.
>
> Also, as far as I can tell, the OSGEO4W binary is compiled with
> Windows XP. It opens in Vista but various modules insidiously fail
> (e.g. r.patch, v.patch, v.what.rast, and others). Anyone who
> installs GRASS under Windows Vista will perceive it as a very buggy
> and semi-functional program.
>
> So if we are serious about making GRASS as cross-platform as we
> claim, we need some windows knowledgeable volunteers who can 1) help
> the OSGEO4W team create a Vista version and 2) produce binary
> versions of GRASS for XP and Vista to go along with the current
> Linux and Mac versions. The current GRASS dev team has done a
> fantastic job over the past 2 years of making GRASS compilable under
> Windows, but are working hard on maintaining and developing the
> module and interface code.
>
> So we really need some new volunteers to tackle maintaining Windows
> binaries. Is there anyone able to take this on?
>
> Michael
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only concern is how to successfully package and distribute this to others. I've been \
working with Colin Nielsen, who has kindly provided a couple of vista binaries in the \
past week and we can't get either to work so far. The seem to need additional dll's \
that are hidden somewhere in the system.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm sure that there \
must be a way to package this up, but I don't know what it \
is.</div><div><br></div><div>Michael<br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span \
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</div><br><div><div>On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:</div><br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I Just compiled \
grass6.5 under Msys Vista 64b, but I don't know if it helps.</div> <div>I am not \
familiar with the generation of installer, but I can share the directories with the \
grass structure....</div> <div> </div> <div>Bests</div> <div> </div> \
<div>miltinho<br><br></div> <div class="gmail_quote">2009/3/26 Michael Barton <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Michael.Barton@asu.edu">Michael.Barton@asu.edu</a>></span><br> \
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; \
BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Whether you like it or not, it is nearly impossible to \
get a new PC without Windows Vista today. If we want GRASS to be accessible to \
Windows users, we need to have versions that run under Vista.<br> <br>Over the past \
year, the development team have worked to solve many issues that kept GRASS from \
running under Vista in the past. The only problem now is that there are no Windows \
Vista binaries for users. Furthermore, there is no current stand-alone Windows binary \
for GRASS at all.<br> <br>Marco Pasetti made a very nice Windows installer for 6.3 \
last year, but is unable to continue this work.<br><br>Other folks in OSGEO have \
created OSGEO4W with a number of packages. However, GRASS is in the 'advanced' \
section--and it is not clear what libraries need to be downloaded with it--and it \
cannot be installed stand-alone.<br> <br>Also, as far as I can tell, the OSGEO4W \
binary is compiled with Windows XP. It opens in Vista but various modules insidiously \
fail (e.g. r.patch, v.patch, v.what.rast, and others). Anyone who installs GRASS \
under Windows Vista will perceive it as a very buggy and semi-functional program.<br> \
<br>So if we are serious about making GRASS as cross-platform as we claim, we need \
some windows knowledgeable volunteers who can 1) help the OSGEO4W team create a Vista \
version and 2) produce binary versions of GRASS for XP and Vista to go along with the \
current Linux and Mac versions. The current GRASS dev team has done a fantastic job \
over the past 2 years of making GRASS compilable under Windows, but are working hard \
on maintaining and developing the module and interface code.<br> <br>So we really \
need some new volunteers to tackle maintaining Windows binaries. Is there anyone able \
to take this on?<br><br>Michael<br>_______________________________________________<br>grass-user \
mailing list<br><a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" \
target="_blank">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br> <a \
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target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user</a><br></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>
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