'Re: [gpgtools-users] Need OpenPGP for Secure Private Instant'

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List:       gpgtools-users
Subject:    Re: [gpgtools-users] Need OpenPGP for Secure Private Instant
From:       Roberto Aguilar <roberto.c.aguilar () gmail ! com>
Date:       2011-02-19 20:39:05
Message-ID: 20AFD9A5-EC26-47DD-A22F-9810BFA880D1 () gmail ! com
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On Feb 19, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Patrice Brend'amour wrote:
> > Presumably secure computer is right.  Take, for example, a feature as innocuous \
> > as keeping my time in sync.  Apple can pretty much track where in the world \
> > because I'm connected to their time server.  Crazy, right.
> If you don't use another NTP Server

Obviously.

My point is this: most people don't think twice about something as fundamental as the \
computer telling you the right time.  That basic feature, enabled out-of-the-box, is \
enough to give you away. 

Now consider all the closed source applications (and platforms when it comes to \
mobiles) and the potential for privacy invasion is endless.

> (as I do) or have your own.

You just reinforced my point: "roll-your-own" vs. "out-of-the-box simplicity and \
cookie cutter experience."

-Roberto.

> Patrice
> Am 19.02.2011 um 20:57 schrieb Roberto Aguilar:
> 
> > On Feb 19, 2011, at 3:28 AM, Raphael 'kena' Poss wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:05 -0800, "Curtis Ward" <CURTISCWARD@comcast.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I beg you for one now.
> > > 
> > > You seem to be confused about security. Your stated needs for
> > > confidentiality conflict with your desire for  an out-of-the-box
> > > solution. Do you realize that any phone manufacturer / mobile carrier
> > > can sell phones that can be remotely controlled? This risk exists even
> > > more for iOS than Android, since neither the operating system nor device
> > > specification are open for scrutiny. Even with a GPG-aware mail client
> > > someone could well monitor your key presses or screen remotely.
> > 
> > You made an excellent choice in phones if you were looking for out-of-the-box \
> > simplicity and cookie cutter experience.  Encryption, security, and privacy are \
> > not cookie cutter; they usually require roll-your-own solutions.  Android may be \
> > better for that; one solution for that platform I found is from Whisper systems: 
> > http://www.whispersys.com/
> > 
> > > In short, don't use your mobile phone directly for secure communication.
> > > The best you can get is tethering, ie connect your computer to a network
> > > using the mobile phone as a network interface. Then you can tunnel
> > > secure channels on top of this using your (presumably secure) computer.
> > 
> > Presumably secure computer is right.  Take, for example, a feature as innocuous \
> > as keeping my time in sync.  Apple can pretty much track where in the world \
> > because I'm connected to their time server.  Crazy, right. 
> > -Roberto.
> > 
> > > -- 
> > > Raphael 'kena' Poss
> > > 
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