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Subject: Re: [Gpg4win-users-en] Kleopatra and redirected folders
From: Paul Stuffins <gpg4win () ravex ! co ! uk>
Date: 2017-12-13 17:27:34
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Hi David,
Thanks for your input. I had 90% reconsidered using Redirected Folders
before you had replied, and as a result of your reply I have got rid of
that GPO.
I will have a look at other ways of syncing my user directories to a
central location.
Many Thanks
Paul
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:05 PM, David Kronlid <david@kronlid.net> wrote:
> It's normal for things to be very slow and possibly to get timeouts if you
> have the entire AppData in a network store. Things need to get read and
> written often to AppData.
> I'm not saying that there's no bug in kleopatra or gpgol, but for things
> to be slow is normal under those circumstances and a timeout wouldn't be
> surprising.
>
> Why don't you backup your AppData to the network store every time you
> logout of Windows? (or more often)
> If you use a modern version of Windows I guess this would sync
> automatically if you have a domain and a pro/enterprise version of Windows.
> This should probably be the default these days and no manual syncing/backup
> should need to be done of AppData, at least not for Win 10. A quick search
> at docs.microsoft.com shows that this is done automatically in Win10 but
> I haven't tried it.
>
> I haven't worked with Windows in an enterprise environment for many years
> now, I mostly use Linux nowadays. But a long time ago when I worked with
> Windows I used to setup automatic backups of various things to the network
> share, but nowadays alot should get backuped/synced automatically.
>
> I recommend checking up documentation and guides for your Windows version
> for optimal settings for AppData on a domain.
>
> As I said there still might be a bug to fix, but I would reconsider the
> setup of having AppData on a network store only as it gives slower
> performance and it's better in most cases to have a local copy that gets
> synced to the network store when Windows decides there is a need.
>
> If you need privacy and don't want to leave unencrypted traces of what
> every user has done you can setup the user folder to be encrypted. However
> I don't know if this still is possible in Win10, but I have used it in Win
> 7 and previous versions. But I guess modern Windows versions will have
> something similar to protect user's privacy.
>
> Hope that my answer can help even though I have been away from the Windows
> enterprise world for a few years now.
>
>
> Den 13 dec. 2017 12:19 skrev "Paul Stuffins" <gpg4win@ravex.co.uk>:
>
> Hi Andre,
>
> My laptop is added to a Windows Domain, it is the only device added at the
> moment because of this issue, and one of the Group Policies is to set up
> Folder Redirection to a share on the file server. I suspect that Kleopatra
> is trying to look in the C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\kleopatra
> directory, but the entire AppData directory is directed to
> \\%server%\%share%\%username%\AppData, and Kleopatra is unable to deal
> with the redirection. Microsoft does warn that some programs will fail to
> work with folder redirection.
>
> Many Thanks
> Paul
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi David,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your input. I had \
90% reconsidered using Redirected Folders before you had replied, and as a result of \
your reply I have got rid of that GPO.</div><div><br></div><div>I will have a look at \
other ways of syncing my user directories to a central \
location.</div><div><br></div><div>Many Thanks</div><div>Paul</div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:05 PM, \
David Kronlid <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@kronlid.net" \
target="_blank">david@kronlid.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>It's normal for things to be very \
slow and possibly to get timeouts if you have the entire AppData in a network store. \
Things need to get read and written often to AppData.<div dir="auto">I'm not \
saying that there's no bug in kleopatra or gpgol, but for things to be slow is \
normal under those circumstances and a timeout wouldn't be surprising.</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Why don't you backup your AppData to the \
network store every time you logout of Windows? (or more often)</div><div \
dir="auto">If you use a modern version of Windows I guess this would sync \
automatically if you have a domain and a pro/enterprise version of Windows. This \
should probably be the default these days and no manual syncing/backup should need to \
be done of AppData, at least not for Win 10. A quick search at <a \
href="http://docs.microsoft.com" target="_blank">docs.microsoft.com</a> shows that \
this is done automatically in Win10 but I haven't tried it.</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I haven't worked with Windows in an \
enterprise environment for many years now, I mostly use Linux nowadays. But a long \
time ago when I worked with Windows I used to setup automatic backups of various \
things to the network share, but nowadays alot should get backuped/synced \
automatically.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I recommend checking up \
documentation and guides for your Windows version for optimal settings for AppData on \
a domain.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div>As I said there still might be a bug to fix, \
but I would reconsider the setup of having AppData on a network store only as it \
gives slower performance and it's better in most cases to have a local copy that \
gets synced to the network store when Windows decides there is a need.</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you need privacy and don't want to leave \
unencrypted traces of what every user has done you can setup the user folder to be \
encrypted. However I don't know if this still is possible in Win10, but I have \
used it in Win 7 and previous versions. But I guess modern Windows versions will have \
something similar to protect user's privacy.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">Hope that my answer can help even though I have been away from the Windows \
enterprise world for a few years now.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div \
class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Den 13 dec. 2017 12:19 \
skrev "Paul Stuffins" <<a href="mailto:gpg4win@ravex.co.uk" \
target="_blank">gpg4win@ravex.co.uk</a>>:<br type="attribution"><blockquote \
class="m_-4372069294570236659quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div>Hi Andre,</div><div><br></div><div>My laptop is added to a \
Windows Domain, it is the only device added at the moment because of this issue, and \
one of the Group Policies is to set up Folder Redirection to a share on the file \
server. I suspect that Kleopatra is trying to look in the \
C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Ro<wbr>aming\kleopatra directory, but the entire AppData \
directory is directed to \\%server%\%share%\%username%\<wbr>AppData, and Kleopatra is \
unable to deal with the redirection. Microsoft does warn that some programs will fail \
to work with folder redirection.</div><div><br></div><div>Many Thanks</div><font \
color="#888888"><div>Paul<br></div></font></div></div></div> \
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